Remembering TCPaul, 2016-2019

Please remind me why we don't lock up crazies in loony bins anymore?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar ticle-7026761/Woman-shout dopesmokeresquire05/14/19
That's a very slippery slope to go down anotherjd05/14/19
And this crazy woman is dead. She, and society, would ha dopesmokeresquire05/14/19
There is a huge correlation between homelessness and mental dupednontraditional05/15/19
yeah community based treatment, this is the trade-off. the c flawed05/14/19
The mentally ill are much more likely to be the victim of a soiled_nappies05/14/19
"There's an autistic boy in my kid's class and he is always imoothereforeim05/14/19
Pun intended, of course? wutwutwut05/14/19
they just have a higher rate of being involved in violent si flawed05/14/19
On a recent trip to Santa Barbera, I was walking on the beac brokelawyer05/14/19
That’s why I carry a Kimber Custom Classic everywhere I go soiled_nappies05/14/19
There's a difference between someone with a history of viole midlaw05/14/19
The Elites want to make middle class as miserable as possibl imoothereforeim05/14/19
The Elites want to make losers as miserable as possible. taxamnesty05/14/19
It's dying out. Certainly in Cali cities like Santa Monica imoothereforeim05/14/19
They are still locked up at some level if there is a determi persius05/14/19
tbf, that is where boomers belong. midlaw05/14/19
They belong in FEMA death camps. Get it right. taxamnesty05/14/19
My bad. Camps, at minimum. midlaw05/14/19
The state has no interest in locking people up unless it get chicagojoe05/14/19
REAGAN exnite05/14/19
Some, I assume, are good people. avalanchediode05/14/19
I would never assume that. gazoo05/14/19
I would throw in the crippling alcoholics too. You know, the dopesmokeresquire05/14/19
Rubbing Alcohol and Hairspray. jackofspeed05/14/19
Republicans cut the budget for looney bins, kicking them all dingbat05/14/19
Most made their way to California avalanchediode05/14/19
All end up with the stench of a wolfman esquirewalletsmatter05/14/19
APA and AMA were biggest pushers for reducing Looney bin sto wutwutwut05/14/19
That's a lie. imoothereforeim05/14/19
ah, dingbat must be trying to live up to her screen name. williamdrayton05/15/19
Only the truly stupid would not know this. imoothereforeim05/15/19
This.^^^^ At least in MA, it was due to funding cuts. gladigotaphdinstead05/15/19
Because Republicans don’t want to pay for it and libs don madathofstra05/14/19
Yeah libs need all of the votes they can get. avalanchediode05/14/19
crazies are more likely to vote for Trump dingbat05/15/19
You mean white people and people with higher incomes? imoothereforeim05/15/19
dingbat is really doubling down on the "dingbattiness". ple williamdrayton05/15/19
LA county has 60,000 homeless people. Most of them are ment imoothereforeim05/14/19
more like, if you're going to be a lazy bum who's capable of dingbat05/15/19
Island fever gazoo05/15/19
LOCK UP GREENDAY75 cavebae05/15/19
This is part of the reason: http://archive.jsonline.com/s abazungu05/15/19
Alberta! Isn't that Cavebro's Girlfriend who lives in Can gazoo05/15/19
PENIS PUMP BASED TREATMENT lucapacioli05/15/19
I remember some of the mentally ill/challenged kids I went t schopenhauerx9905/15/19
nobody gonna make the requisite disabled schope joke? flawed05/16/19



dopesmokeresquire (May 14, 2019 - 1:27 pm)

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7026761/Woman-shouts-Im-pregnant-shot-dead-policeman-Texas.html

Schizo woman shot by cop when she grabs his taser and attempts to use it against him. Outstanding warrants for agg batt with bodily harm.

This crazy woman is out on the streets because of MuHH RIGHTs???

These people CANNOT live and function in society.

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anotherjd (May 14, 2019 - 1:29 pm)

That's a very slippery slope to go down

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dopesmokeresquire (May 14, 2019 - 1:31 pm)

And this crazy woman is dead.

She, and society, would have better off is she was in an asylum.

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dupednontraditional (May 15, 2019 - 7:28 am)

There is a huge correlation between homelessness and mental illness. I think a lot of the same people who said “we don’t need asylums” are also the ones who say “why don’t people do something about the homeless problem?” Taxes just taxes, but the unions are due benefits under unsustainable and under-funded models, so...

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flawed (May 14, 2019 - 1:36 pm)

yeah community based treatment, this is the trade-off. the crazies are out amongst us and their interpretation of the world does not always line up with reality.

I make the same argument with the push for inclusion in schools. yeah its great to try to not seclude troubled/mentally ill kids from a normal schooling and socialization, but don't be shocked when they shoot up a classroom every so often.

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soiled_nappies (May 14, 2019 - 1:57 pm)

The mentally ill are much more likely to be the victim of a violent crime than to commit a violent crime.

You have something of a good point though, in that mainstreaming kids forces other kids to figure them out. There's an autistic boy in my kid's class and he is always causing disruptions and is hard for the neurotypicals to figure out.

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imoothereforeim (May 14, 2019 - 2:03 pm)

"There's an autistic boy in my kid's class and he is always causing disruptions and is hard for the neurotypicals to figure out."

Man. that's crazy.

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wutwutwut (May 14, 2019 - 5:55 pm)

Pun intended, of course?

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flawed (May 14, 2019 - 2:08 pm)

they just have a higher rate of being involved in violent situations period.

im sure they are victimized more than they are the perpetrators, sure, but they are much more likely to be perpetrators of violence than someone without mental illness.

it is a shame because i am sure there are autistic kids and legit mentally ill kids that benefit from inclusion in mainstreaming, but when they are rejected and isolated by their peers, heads up.

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brokelawyer (May 14, 2019 - 2:14 pm)

On a recent trip to Santa Barbera, I was walking on the beach with my family when a random homeless person walked up and threatened to kill me. Totally out of the blue.

No sense in calling the cops. We don’t even have institutions to send these people to. So we live in fear.

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soiled_nappies (May 14, 2019 - 4:09 pm)

That’s why I carry a Kimber Custom Classic everywhere I go!

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midlaw (May 14, 2019 - 2:21 pm)

There's a difference between someone with a history of violent threats or acts and someone who is an otherwise chill bro that just can't function in society. The former need to be involuntarily institutionalized. The latter should be taken care of, somehow, and not just left in the streets to be driven even more crazy.

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imoothereforeim (May 14, 2019 - 2:34 pm)

The Elites want to make middle class as miserable as possible. I have stopped going to Santa Monica beaches. So filthy and disgusting.

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taxamnesty (May 14, 2019 - 2:36 pm)

The Elites want to make losers as miserable as possible.

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There is no middle class, champ.

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imoothereforeim (May 14, 2019 - 2:53 pm)

It's dying out. Certainly in Cali cities like Santa Monica and SF, you are right. Just people with many homes and the homeless.

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persius (May 14, 2019 - 2:45 pm)

They are still locked up at some level if there is a determination that they are a danger to themselves or others.

It is a little coincidental that Reagan is credited with letting them out and later slipped into Alzheimer’s. I don’t think that standard will get any lower as boomers know they could start showing signs of dementia any time and that millennials would be all too quick to throw them in the booby hatch.

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midlaw (May 14, 2019 - 2:52 pm)

tbf, that is where boomers belong.

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taxamnesty (May 14, 2019 - 3:28 pm)

They belong in FEMA death camps. Get it right.

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midlaw (May 14, 2019 - 4:07 pm)

My bad. Camps, at minimum.

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chicagojoe (May 14, 2019 - 2:47 pm)

The state has no interest in locking people up unless it gets the DA reelected.

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exnite (May 14, 2019 - 3:21 pm)

REAGAN

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avalanchediode (May 14, 2019 - 5:58 pm)

Some, I assume, are good people.

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gazoo (May 14, 2019 - 6:13 pm)

I would never assume that.

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dopesmokeresquire (May 14, 2019 - 6:17 pm)

I would throw in the crippling alcoholics too. You know, the ones that will drink mouthwaash and hand sanitizer. I mean, we would lock up a crazy that had an insatiable need to drink gasoline.

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jackofspeed (May 14, 2019 - 6:40 pm)

Rubbing Alcohol and Hairspray.



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dingbat (May 14, 2019 - 6:55 pm)

Republicans cut the budget for looney bins, kicking them all out into the streets. Some end up in prison, the others end up voting republican

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avalanchediode (May 14, 2019 - 6:58 pm)

Most made their way to California

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esquirewalletsmatter (May 14, 2019 - 7:01 pm)

All end up with the stench of a wolfman

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wutwutwut (May 14, 2019 - 7:09 pm)

APA and AMA were biggest pushers for reducing Looney bin storage. "We can do this in the community", they said.

State and local govts whether R or D were all too happy to play along.

Some of the loudest individual proponents are now admitting they may have gone too far.

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imoothereforeim (May 14, 2019 - 7:15 pm)

That's a lie.

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williamdrayton (May 15, 2019 - 10:55 am)

ah, dingbat must be trying to live up to her screen name.

deinstitutionalization was triggered in the late 1960's-early 1970s by parents and advocates who filed lawsuits and pushed for state/federal investigations of the facilities. the basic premise was that the places were cesspools of abuse/neglect along with being unsanitary and hazardous.

it was a 10-15 year process that happened to culminate when Reagan was in office. it had nothing whatsoever to do with Beltway partisan politics. as another poster already pointed out, mental health professionals pushed for community-based treatment as an alternative to the facilities

google "David Bazelon" for insight into this movement.

I suppose the topic is slightly in my wheelhouse because two of the most notorious facilities are in my backyard (Byberry and Pennhurst)

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imoothereforeim (May 15, 2019 - 11:47 am)

Only the truly stupid would not know this.

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gladigotaphdinstead (May 15, 2019 - 2:13 pm)

This.^^^^

At least in MA, it was due to funding cuts.

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madathofstra (May 14, 2019 - 7:13 pm)

Because Republicans don’t want to pay for it and libs don’t want anyone to get put in there.

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avalanchediode (May 14, 2019 - 7:14 pm)

Yeah libs need all of the votes they can get.

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dingbat (May 15, 2019 - 11:45 am)

crazies are more likely to vote for Trump

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imoothereforeim (May 15, 2019 - 11:49 am)

You mean white people and people with higher incomes?

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williamdrayton (May 15, 2019 - 12:02 pm)

dingbat is really doubling down on the "dingbattiness". please go on Google to see how many votes Trump got in the 5-county Southeast Pennsylvania area in and around Philadelphia. it's by far the most affluent, most educated and "bluest" part of the state. If Hillary had a bigger margin just in this area, she wins PA.

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imoothereforeim (May 14, 2019 - 7:16 pm)

LA county has 60,000 homeless people. Most of them are mentally ill. Democrats run LA. Why don't Democrats just build a 60,000 room mental hospital to house them?

Hawaii beaches have 6000 homeless people living on the beaches. These is odd; why do people fly to Hawaii and suddenly become mentally ill? Probably curse of volcano gods.

Anyway, Democrats run Hawaii. Why don't Democrats just build a 6000-room crazy farm to house those 6000 homeless people?

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dingbat (May 15, 2019 - 11:48 am)

more like, if you're going to be a lazy bum who's capable of working but would rather be homeless, where better than Hawaii? (California comes second)

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gazoo (May 15, 2019 - 12:06 pm)

Island fever

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cavebae (May 15, 2019 - 12:05 pm)

LOCK UP GREENDAY75

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abazungu (May 15, 2019 - 12:46 pm)

This is part of the reason:

http://archive.jsonline.com/specialreports/Teachers-case-opened-door-for-mentally-ill-208138331.html

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gazoo (May 15, 2019 - 2:11 pm)

Alberta!

Isn't that Cavebro's Girlfriend who lives in Canada?

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lucapacioli (May 15, 2019 - 8:06 pm)

PENIS PUMP BASED TREATMENT

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schopenhauerx99 (May 15, 2019 - 9:15 pm)

I remember some of the mentally ill/challenged kids I went to elementary and high school with. Given all of the disciplinary issues they had, they probably shouldn't have been placed in a public school.

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flawed (May 16, 2019 - 2:09 pm)

nobody gonna make the requisite disabled schope joke?

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