Remembering TCPaul, 2016-2019

Shameless remainer scum betray the British people

filthy corrupt pigs without a shred of honor they deserve wolfman03/14/19
"And yet despite this, and despite the scare stories about t therewillbeblood03/14/19
Brexit is actually pretty confusing personally to me. I’m thecharmingmresq03/14/19
"But the RoE gets too much gubment cheese from the EU to eve wolfman03/14/19
You'd rather have a sovereign country with an Irish problem? limeysolicitor03/14/19
He just playing his stupid politics without any regarded for triplesix03/14/19
Which sovereign country? Take that argument a step further, dieter03/14/19
Brexit could work if they had planned for it. Unfortunately, midlaw03/14/19
"Brexit and Trumpism Have Failed Because Conservative Populi backfromthedead03/14/19
News Alert: Democracy was abandoned long ago both in the U.K exnite03/14/19
This is the median Brexiteer: https://twitter.com/classic therewillbeblood03/14/19
Hahahahaha! I was taking a drink of coffee when the lad wutwutwut03/14/19
“They take our jobs and don’t even work!” Sounds like gladigotaphdinstead03/14/19
Sad gazoo03/14/19
Who wants to bet gazoo works for an SJW woman who dominates therewillbeblood03/14/19
Brexit will cause widespread suffering for Britons. dieter03/14/19
It's one of the stupidest self-owns in history. Brexiteers a therewillbeblood03/14/19
When the penny drops, and the UK standard of living takes a dieter03/14/19
He's an idiot, no deal isn't off the table. No deal is stil whatnext03/14/19
Yep, Farage, Johnson, etc. are inveterate liars. And Farage therewillbeblood03/14/19
Boris Johnson wants May to ruin it so he can be PM. Anyone whatnext03/14/19
You’d have to be stupid to want to be PM right now. therewillbeblood03/14/19



wolfman (Mar 14, 2019 - 12:32 pm)

filthy corrupt pigs without a shred of honor

they deserve to heave their heads mounted on spikes on London Bridge

Brexit is coming, one way or another, and the traitor swine will receive justice

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/03/13/betrayal-brexit-one-shameful-chapters-countrys-history/

For those w/out access, this is by UK's Nigel Farage:

The great Brexit betrayal has begun”. I first wrote those words in a piece for the Telegraph in July 2017. How everybody laughed at the time. “Poor old Nigel,” they said. “He’s so desperate to be relevant.”

Well, although it pains me to say it, the vote in Parliament to take no deal off the table proves that, 20 months ago, I was right.

I know Westminster’s current crop of career-minded politicians only too well. They are anti-democrats posing as men and women of honour, many of them unaware of the workings of the political project that is the European Union. Indeed, I doubt if they could even name its seven key institutions.

If ignorance breeds deceit, it is easy to see why the political class pretended it would respect the result of the EU referendum, but ever since June 23, 2016 has twisted and turned, doing its best to frustrate the will of the people.

In February 2017, 498 MPs voted to trigger Article 50. This represented a House of Commons majority of 384. Simply by taking part in this vote, as opposed to abstaining, it was implicit that every MP agreed to respect its result, whatever that result was.


They all knew that the consequence was that the UK would leave the EU on March 29 2019, with or without a deal. And yet now they have decided to claim the vote was meaningless.

Subsequently, every Conservative and Labour candidate stood on a manifesto commitment at the 2017 general election to enact Brexit come what may.

But since being elected, many have stuck two fingers up at their own parties and shown complete contempt for the people by trying to weasel their way out of this pledge. (Remember, 85 per cent of voters backed pro-Brexit parties in 2017).

So, our political class is mired in mendacity. We are living through one of the most shameful chapters in our country’s history.

And yet despite this, and despite the scare stories about the allegedly adverse impacts of a World Trade Organisation Brexit, the public is now coming together in a remarkable way.

While there is anger with our MPs for their serial betrayal, people are uniting around a clean Brexit. It is equally heartening to see many Remain voters acknowledge that, unless Brexit is delivered, our country may be damaged irreparably.

Britons have always believed in liberty and democracy, even if our current leaders have forgotten that. The coward’s way out of any political crisis is to kick the can down the road. A vote today to extend Article 50 is now seen by many as the only way out of the crisis.

But my experience in Strasbourg this week suggests that, at the crucial European council summit next week, attended by all EU leaders, granting such an extension may not be a mere formality.

I met the EU’s Brexit negotiator Michel Barnier on Wednesday after the Withdrawal Agreement was rejected for a second time. Unsurprisingly, he was in a bad mood having just kissed goodbye to a deal guaranteeing him a minimum of £39 billion. But he said there can be no blank cheque for an Article 50 extension.


Along with the other heads of the EU political groups, he wants a clear plan as to why they should back this idea. I now believe that what the EU truly wants is for Theresa May to promise a second referendum, something that would surely split the Conservative Party irretrievably and therefore be very difficult for her to deliver.

In any case, how long would the extension last?

European elections take place on May 23. If Britain is still an EU member on that date, we must by law contest those elections, a fact confirmed by EU Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker.

But the EU Parliament chief negotiator Guy Verhofstadt has already said the UK must not take part. (He even claimed that I would hijack them, for which read “secure many votes”).

If Verhofstadt has his way, that would give the UK until May 22. After two-and-a-half years of deadlock, how would an extra few weeks solve anything, especially as Brussels will be closed for most of April and May because of the elections anyway?

Depressing though last night’s Commons result is, it does not change the legislation still in place under the EU Withdrawal Act. By law, the UK must leave the EU on March 29 – unless the government changes the legislation.

I now think there is a 30 per cent chance we will leave with no deal following an impasse at next week’s EU summit. If so, we can all get on with the rest of our lives.

If not, we will see greater political change in Britain than we have seen in modern times. Either way, I am confident that the public is with us. They, after all, believe in democracy and in Britain.

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therewillbeblood (Mar 14, 2019 - 4:30 pm)

"And yet despite this, and despite the scare stories about the allegedly adverse impacts of a World Trade Organisation Brexit, the public is now coming together in a remarkable way.

While there is anger with our MPs for their serial betrayal, people are uniting around a clean Brexit. It is equally heartening to see many Remain voters acknowledge that, unless Brexit is delivered, our country may be damaged irreparably."

Nigel Farage is a liar. The public has steadily moved away from supporting Brexit.

https://whatukthinks.org/eu/questions/in-hindsight-and-irrespective-of-how-or-if-you-voted-do-you-think-britain-was-right-or-wrong-to-vote-to-leave-the-eu/

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thecharmingmresq (Mar 14, 2019 - 12:39 pm)

Brexit is actually pretty confusing personally to me. I’m all in favor in the macro scale, but not having militarized check points between the RoE and the UK in Northern Ireland has done terrific things for each place and there’s no real interest in either for a return to hard boarders.
If the RoE could come up with some understanding w/the UK that would be 180 but as is I grudgingly pick “remain” because I remember The Bad Oald Days and don’t want to go back.
But the RoE gets too much gubment cheese from the EU to ever come to little side-deals with the UK. It’s a confusing and frustrating place for all.

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wolfman (Mar 14, 2019 - 12:59 pm)

"But the RoE gets too much gubment cheese from the EU to ever come to little side-deals with the UK." If so, that should be their loss. The idea that the Irish republic should be allowed literally hold the UK hostage is preposterous. I am sure once the fact of Brexit was accomplished, some sort of a deal could be worked out there...

Instead, they are choosing to quite literally subvert the clearly expressed will of the electorate.

In any case, I don't want to go back to the bad old days either, but I'd pick a sovereign country with an Irish problem over a slave country without one any day of the week... and if the British government cannot deal with whatever IRA remnants are crazy enough to restart the violence (I think it's all a giant bluff btw), Britain needs a new government.

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limeysolicitor (Mar 14, 2019 - 3:28 pm)

You'd rather have a sovereign country with an Irish problem? What do you know about Northern Ireland or Irish politics? My guess is bugger all.

Unlike you I vividly remember the troubles. My family were victimised by the IRA. There's no way I'd sacrifice the fragile peace that's held since '98. Thousands of people died.

Incidentally, there's something called the Good Friday Agreement. It's an international binding treaty which obliges the UK to maintain an open border. The UK should honour her obligations even at the expense of a blue veined, ultra hard brexit.

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triplesix (Mar 14, 2019 - 3:32 pm)

He just playing his stupid politics without any regarded for y'all's political structures and Dynamics bc fuk the EU, dey comminism

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dieter (Mar 14, 2019 - 4:49 pm)

Which sovereign country? Take that argument a step further, and why should the English, the Welsh, the Cornish, the Manx, the Scots, or Merseyside Pakistani chippies be slaves when they can have sovereign countries of their own?

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midlaw (Mar 14, 2019 - 12:54 pm)

Brexit could work if they had planned for it. Unfortunately, they didn’t because the tories are all morons. Now the economy in the UK is going to go in the toilet with a disorganized Brexit. Gg.

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backfromthedead (Mar 14, 2019 - 12:58 pm)

"Brexit and Trumpism Have Failed Because Conservative Populism Is a Lie"
just like you can't squeeze blood out of a turnip, you can't force feed bullsh!t to people without a backlash
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/03/brexit-trump-conservative-populism.html

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exnite (Mar 14, 2019 - 1:03 pm)

News Alert: Democracy was abandoned long ago both in the U.K. and here; criminal Elites run the system

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therewillbeblood (Mar 14, 2019 - 2:09 pm)

This is the median Brexiteer:

https://twitter.com/classiclib3ral/status/1101850461697654784?s=21

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wutwutwut (Mar 14, 2019 - 2:13 pm)

Hahahahaha!

I was taking a drink of coffee when the lady conducting the interview looked over and smirked at the cameraman and I half choked and got coffee spittles on my monitor.


Edit: Where's this guy on the spectrum? He vomited out 500 words in 45 seconds and never once made eye contact with her.

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gladigotaphdinstead (Mar 14, 2019 - 2:19 pm)

“They take our jobs and don’t even work!” Sounds like some JDU posters.

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gazoo (Mar 14, 2019 - 2:39 pm)

Sad



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therewillbeblood (Mar 14, 2019 - 4:34 pm)

Who wants to bet gazoo works for an SJW woman who dominates him daily?

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dieter (Mar 14, 2019 - 2:17 pm)

Brexit will cause widespread suffering for Britons.

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therewillbeblood (Mar 14, 2019 - 2:31 pm)

It's one of the stupidest self-owns in history. Brexiteers are like Republicans in the US -- a weird alliance of poorly educated white boomers and the wealthy. All of them are going to be hit hard by this. I just hope the disadvantages hit the deplorables who voted for it hardest.

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dieter (Mar 14, 2019 - 4:39 pm)

When the penny drops, and the UK standard of living takes a sharp and sudden dive, heads are going to roll. The GFC hit the UK even harder than the US, and the country still hasn't fully recovered. Brexit is going to be worse. People are going to wake up to how utterly empty this kind of petty nationalism is, but it'll be too late. The EU won't take them back on easy terms.

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whatnext (Mar 14, 2019 - 2:19 pm)

He's an idiot, no deal isn't off the table. No deal is still the default if they can't come to an agreement.

Of course, Farage and his crew won the vote in no small part due to shameless, bald faced lies (most notably giving hundreds of millions of pounds [per week if memory serves] to the NHS instead of Europe). Now that every one of those lies has been exposed, some are understandably skittish. And the big Leavers, as soon as the vote was over, immediately started partying and were completely hands off because they know it will be a failure and they need other people to muck it up so they can say "If you had just listened to us, it would have worked!" If you don't think Farage is thrilled about what's going on, you're out of your mind. He only cares about himself and May screwing up is good for Nigel Farage.

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therewillbeblood (Mar 14, 2019 - 2:29 pm)

Yep, Farage, Johnson, etc. are inveterate liars. And Farage has said if Brexit messes things up he'll just leave the country, so there's that.

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whatnext (Mar 14, 2019 - 2:38 pm)

Boris Johnson wants May to ruin it so he can be PM. Anyone who thinks he's genuinely Leave is bonkers. Stay or go, he just wants power and he saw Leave as a way to get it.

Then you have idiot rank and file MPs leavers like Ester McVey, who recently shared a years old, false article that said every EU member state would be forced to adopt the Euro by 2020. When thousands of people told her that had long since been debunked, she deleted her tweet then said she was just trying to share a different POV.

If there's been any betrayal, it's by toads like Farage and Johnson and the morons who followed them down the path, lying about obvious facts every step of the way.

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therewillbeblood (Mar 14, 2019 - 4:23 pm)

You’d have to be stupid to want to be PM right now.

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