Remembering TCPaul, 2016-2019

Luke Perry Passed Away

So sad. Family rep confirms his passing: https://www.yah catwoman33303/04/19
Putting up with Shannen Doherty shortened his life. gazoo03/04/19
Dealing with republicans will do that. midlaw03/04/19
Pretty young for a stroke and he still looked so thin, buff catwoman33303/04/19
Luke always worked out a lot, he was still jacked. I've pos trijocker03/04/19
Besides diseases everything else you mentioned is a very sma gladigotaphdinstead03/04/19
Sucks. Reminds me of a guy I somewhat know who found out a f actionbronson03/04/19
To stay trim, fit, buff after 50 requires a lot more than a imoothereforeim03/04/19
I would take herniation as a way to go out. I'm bye bye a bigsal03/04/19
What is the difference between a stroke and an aneurysm or i persius03/04/19
Aneurysm is a vessel dilating. Sometimes it can rupture. T bigsal03/04/19
for now, anyway wutwutwut03/04/19
You do serially CT and operate if it grows. Thats managemen bigsal03/04/19
Sure, for those who are aware they have one or more cerebral wutwutwut03/05/19
Poor guy. I watched 90210 the first time around. It would soiled_nappies03/04/19
My bet is cocaine. Strokes and cociane use go together. massivemissive03/04/19
Meth is king in ca bigsal03/04/19
Could it be roids? Luke lived in a nice house with a pool i trijocker03/04/19
Less common cause. Its in the literature bigsal03/04/19
What about the precancerous growths in his colon? Could this trijocker03/04/19
Is it just my warped perception here, or have people stopped phosita03/04/19
RIP, Luke Perry. I enjoyed 90210 in its heyday too. At least cranky03/04/19
Probably smoked, was a heavy drinker for most of his life, a david6198303/04/19
Only in America do we reflexively blame the victim anytime a theimmigrant03/04/19
Who blames someone for bombing a job interview? That's the david6198303/04/19
You greatly overestimate the control that one has over these theimmigrant03/04/19
https://www.thedailybeast.com/luke- perry-star-of-90210-and-r david6198303/04/19
"Drinking/smoking don't have a terribly strong correlation w david6198303/04/19
Refer to any statistical or epidemiological study. There's a theimmigrant03/04/19
I have tons of patients dying all the time for practically n catwoman33303/05/19
Maybe you missed the above statement: theimmigrant (Mar 4 johnsmith03/05/19
Europeans are not morbidly fat and sedentary. They eat heal catwoman33303/05/19
Sometimes these things just happen. He wasn't that young. He fettywap03/04/19
If true then it's just a terrible tragedy. One thing is cer david6198303/04/19
He was 30 years old and still playing a high school kid on T gazoo03/05/19
almost lost my mom last year. now she is like a baby. 65yo kenco03/04/19
GEN X, THE REAPER IS COMING FOR YOU HAHA cowgod03/04/19
Lucky for you, you were the first-ever Gen Y birth iirc, as theimmigrant03/05/19
I'm FB friends with someone from the original 90210 cast, bu cowgod03/05/19
Luke Perry was responsible for binging back sideburns from gazoo03/14/19
You also met admin irl theimmigrant03/14/19
It is possible. However, he did not introduce himself. gazoo03/15/19
I never followed his career, so don't know about rumors of d catwoman33303/05/19
Ahhh... the 90s. I remember Tori Spelling played a virgin o gazoo03/05/19



catwoman333 (Mar 4, 2019 - 1:04 pm)

So sad. Family rep confirms his passing:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/luke-perry-dies-riverdale-90210-175459574.html

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gazoo (Mar 4, 2019 - 1:24 pm)

Putting up with Shannen Doherty shortened his life.

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midlaw (Mar 4, 2019 - 1:56 pm)

Dealing with republicans will do that.

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catwoman333 (Mar 4, 2019 - 1:37 pm)

Pretty young for a stroke and he still looked so thin, buff in recent pictures. The gossip wags are all saying "drugs" but you never really know. He could have had a family history of early deaths due to strokes, heart attacks. I did see a picture of his brother (Tom?) a few years ago but you would never think they were related. The dude was HUGE, like 300+ pounds. Maybe Luke starved himself, did drugs to avoid Tom's health, weight issues, but drugs will also surely mess up the body, esp. the CV system.

It's sad he passed so soon, but the truth is you can do everything in your power (eat healthy, exercise, regular dr. checkups) to fend off the grim reaper, but the reaper ALWAYS wins in the end. And there ain't a damn thing you can do to change mortality.

And there aren't many "easy" deaths or ways to leave this life. Few people go in their sleep. Most have painful deaths (diseases, violent accidents like car/train/plane crashes, terrorist explosions, drownings, tree falls in a storms, wars, or--worst of all--murder). It looks like LP had one of the "best" exits possible (fast, painless).

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trijocker (Mar 4, 2019 - 1:40 pm)

Luke always worked out a lot, he was still jacked.
I've posted that Riverdale was a hard show to work on, they filmed all through the night.
Actors and crews complained. Maybe that schedule was too much for an old guy, so he used something
to stay awake. Whatever the reason for his death, his death is a tragic loss.

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gladigotaphdinstead (Mar 4, 2019 - 7:31 pm)

Besides diseases everything else you mentioned is a very small percentage of the way people die.

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actionbronson (Mar 4, 2019 - 1:50 pm)

Sucks. Reminds me of a guy I somewhat know who found out a few years ago that he was basically a ticking time bomb in the cardiovascular sense. He was in his 50s, slim, former tennis player and coach, fit as a fiddle, ate well, etc. It didn't matter. He started having mild angina symptoms, went to get them checked out, and the response was "yeeeaaaaahhhh you're going to need surgery pretty much right now." He had a serious family history and that's really what it came down to. He's fine now, but probably wouldn't be alive if he didn't have the good sense to go to the ER.

Middle aged people and olds can't handle drugs and alcohol as well as younger people can, so maybe that had something to do with it too. But I never heard anything about this guy being a serious drug user.

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imoothereforeim (Mar 4, 2019 - 1:57 pm)

To stay trim, fit, buff after 50 requires a lot more than a guy in his 20s or 30s. A lot more. And that might be where the problem lies.

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bigsal (Mar 4, 2019 - 2:48 pm)

I would take herniation as a way to go out.

I'm bye bye already

Also my money is on cerebellar stroke or mca stroke as cause of death if not hemorrhagic.

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persius (Mar 4, 2019 - 3:06 pm)

What is the difference between a stroke and an aneurysm or is an aneurysm a type of stroke? I have known people that have died from those and I don’t think the cause was poor health.

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bigsal (Mar 4, 2019 - 3:15 pm)

Aneurysm is a vessel dilating. Sometimes it can rupture. That can lead to a hemorrhagic stroke. There are people out there with aneurysms alive and well.

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wutwutwut (Mar 4, 2019 - 5:44 pm)

for now, anyway

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bigsal (Mar 4, 2019 - 5:45 pm)

You do serially CT and operate if it grows. Thats management

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wutwutwut (Mar 5, 2019 - 1:37 pm)

Sure, for those who are aware they have one or more cerebral aneurysms. But I'd guess (no evidence, just a guess) the majority do not know, though.

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soiled_nappies (Mar 4, 2019 - 3:32 pm)

Poor guy. I watched 90210 the first time around.

It wouldn't be painful to get shot in the head if you got shot in the brainstem. I have heard it's lights-out and you don't even know it. Also, isn't it relatively painless to go out with a big dose of phenobarbital?

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massivemissive (Mar 4, 2019 - 3:37 pm)

My bet is cocaine. Strokes and cociane use go together.

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bigsal (Mar 4, 2019 - 5:26 pm)

Meth is king in ca

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trijocker (Mar 4, 2019 - 6:00 pm)

Could it be roids?
Luke lived in a nice house with a pool in Sherman Oaks, not Stockton.
Meth is king in a lot of places, but seems more in use with the white trash, not the wealthy.
Also, like I said he seemed to work out a lot, and there was not visible meth sores, he was on camera daily.

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bigsal (Mar 4, 2019 - 8:36 pm)

Less common cause. Its in the literature

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trijocker (Mar 4, 2019 - 9:58 pm)

What about the precancerous growths in his colon? Could this lead to a stroke?
Also I had a grandparent die at the same age, so why does everyone here think he was too young to die, and that it had to be drugs?

https://www.webmd.com/stroke/news/20190304/luke-perry-dies-massive-stroke

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phosita (Mar 4, 2019 - 3:43 pm)

Is it just my warped perception here, or have people stopped saying "so and so died" and started saying "so and so passed away"?

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cranky (Mar 4, 2019 - 4:08 pm)

RIP, Luke Perry. I enjoyed 90210 in its heyday too. At least he didn't suffer for long.

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david61983 (Mar 4, 2019 - 6:10 pm)

Probably smoked, was a heavy drinker for most of his life, and did some blow too. That would be my guess.

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theimmigrant (Mar 4, 2019 - 7:29 pm)

Only in America do we reflexively blame the victim anytime anything unfortunate whatsoever occurs, whether it be bombing a job interview, disease, Death, the list goes on. Odds are that whatever happened had a basis in genotype with lifestyle contributing like 7.5%. Genotype is salient, and death is all around us, believe me.

Source: I am a Nurse

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david61983 (Mar 4, 2019 - 8:02 pm)

Who blames someone for bombing a job interview? That's the first I've heard that. Certainly sometimes people are just very unlucky. But if you're a drunk, a smoker, morbidly obese, or do hard drugs you deserve the blunt of the blame when something bad happens to you. It's called control and personal responsibility.

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theimmigrant (Mar 4, 2019 - 8:14 pm)

You greatly overestimate the control that one has over these things. I can understand this, given that not everyone works in Healthcare as I do, but look... you're having the same kneejerk reaction that a lot of folks do, because you want to feel a sense of control over your life, but the fact is that you don't. You know basically nothing about this Dead Celebrity except that he was said to be on a TV show in 1990, and you're assuming he was a Drunk, or whatever. I have tons of patients dying all the time for practically no reason. Drinking/smoking don't have a terribly strong correlation with health outcomes. At most, smoking doubles the likelihood of various Bad Things. It doesn't change the likelihood of anything in particular from 3% to 70%. Sure, very heavy drinking can mess you up, but a stroke is like #10 on the list of things that it causes. Discuss.

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david61983 (Mar 4, 2019 - 8:22 pm)

https://www.thedailybeast.com/luke-perry-star-of-90210-and-riverdale-wasnt-too-young-for-a-stroke

Not what this article says.

Zeiler said that while genetics plays a role in strokes, “prevention is the best medicine.”

“Take care of your risk factors: Eat healthy, exercise, control your diabetes, don’t smoke,” he ticked off.

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david61983 (Mar 4, 2019 - 8:24 pm)

"Drinking/smoking don't have a terribly strong correlation with health outcomes."

There's no way you work in health care.

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theimmigrant (Mar 4, 2019 - 9:26 pm)

Refer to any statistical or epidemiological study. There's a strong correlation in that it consistently increases a statistically low risk. That MedicalDoctor is just giving his best advice. Liberal artists don't understand how these things are quantified and just go around thinking that every human death under the age of 65 is effectively suicide because they want to be in control. Smoking, not to mention drinking, is everywhere in Europe and life expectancies are longer than in the U.S. Determinism is utter folly, period. Honestly, Devid, you are living up to your elementary school reputation here. Just stating facts.

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catwoman333 (Mar 5, 2019 - 11:42 am)

I have tons of patients dying all the time for practically no reason. Drinking/smoking don't have a terribly strong correlation with health outcomes.

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What a RIDICULOUS statement! Even a 10th grader knows smoking/drinking are linked to several deadly diseases: heart attack, stroke, lung cancer, cirrhosis/liver cancer, emphysema.

Are you REALLY a nurse (RN)?? Or just so deep in denial of reality that you SHOULDN'T be a nurse. Or maybe one of those morbidly obese, chain-smoking "nurses" we increasingly see at hospitals now who have donuts and KFC for lunch, reek of tobacco, and who sit around in the break room, whining about "unfair size shaming/discrimination" every time a dr. tells a fat patient to lose the Big Macs, supersize cokes, and hit the gym.

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johnsmith (Mar 5, 2019 - 4:06 pm)

Maybe you missed the above statement:

theimmigrant (Mar 4, 2019 - 9:26 pm)


Refer to any statistical or epidemiological study. There's a strong correlation in that it consistently increases a statistically low risk. That MedicalDoctor is just giving his best advice. Liberal artists don't understand how these things are quantified and just go around thinking that every human death under the age of 65 is effectively suicide because they want to be in control. Smoking, not to mention drinking, is everywhere in Europe and life expectancies are longer than in the U.S.

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catwoman333 (Mar 5, 2019 - 9:53 pm)

Europeans are not morbidly fat and sedentary. They eat healthy, fresh food in moderation. Lung cancer and liver cirrhosis are very high, esp. in eastern Europe. DM and MIs/strokes are higher in the US, where near 80% of people are overweight/morbidly obese. Also, Europeans--unlike Americans--are not stressed out workaholics or couch potatoes who stuff themselves with high calorie fast food. They enjoy generous vacation benefits and free access to healthcare (thus earlier diagnosis, treatment of life-threatening illnesses, HBP, DM, and lower mortality rates, including infant mortality).

Liberal (or conservative) politics has nothing to do with it. Common sense does.

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fettywap (Mar 4, 2019 - 8:05 pm)

Sometimes these things just happen. He wasn't that young. He always looked pretty rough, but I don't know about any alcohol, drug use, or smoking. It doesn't sound like he abused anything.

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david61983 (Mar 4, 2019 - 8:08 pm)

If true then it's just a terrible tragedy. One thing is certain in that we can all go at anytime no matter how well we live.

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gazoo (Mar 5, 2019 - 11:49 am)

He was 30 years old and still playing a high school kid on TV.

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kenco (Mar 4, 2019 - 9:39 pm)

almost lost my mom last year. now she is like a baby. 65yo.

she ate too many eggs. we argued every day about it. she would
say to me "what else is there to eat"

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cowgod (Mar 4, 2019 - 11:07 pm)

GEN X, THE REAPER IS COMING FOR YOU HAHA

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theimmigrant (Mar 5, 2019 - 7:09 am)

Lucky for you, you were the first-ever Gen Y birth iirc, as evidenced by your taking the re-curved 1996 SAT in 1996.

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cowgod (Mar 5, 2019 - 3:52 pm)

I'm FB friends with someone from the original 90210 cast, but it's not Luke Perry who'm I've never met.

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gazoo (Mar 14, 2019 - 11:16 pm)

Luke Perry was responsible for binging back sideburns from 1993 thru 1997.

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theimmigrant (Mar 14, 2019 - 11:16 pm)

You also met admin irl

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gazoo (Mar 15, 2019 - 8:13 am)

It is possible. However, he did not introduce himself.

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catwoman333 (Mar 5, 2019 - 11:50 am)

I never followed his career, so don't know about rumors of drugs, suicide, alcoholism, family history of CV disease or early deaths.

But I do think there is possibly more to this story. Last week, his reps said, "He's under observation". That seemed an odd statement to make about someone who was likely on a respirator and unconscious due to "massive stroke". It sounded more like the statement of a talent agent trying to downplay his condition, worried that his client might have had a drug overdose but wanting to minimize it until he recovered.

I guess we will all find out in a few days when the coroner issues a report and death cert.

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gazoo (Mar 5, 2019 - 11:54 am)

Ahhh... the 90s.
I remember Tori Spelling played a virgin on 90210.
Haha. Her father was the producer and didn't her to be promiscuous on TV. Then IRL she popped out 4 kids on 5 1/2 years and added a 5th two years ago.

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