Remembering TCPaul, 2016-2019

Journalist, Teachers, Police, etc.

It seems that these professions are always fighting for resp superttthero02/04/19
How exactly do you expect true investigative journalism to h onefortheteam02/04/19
The problem is bigger than people not spending on journalism superttthero02/04/19
Well of course every business is going to do what it can to onefortheteam02/04/19
Journalists are the most in love with themselves. Journalist eagleton02/04/19
Indeed; remember after the first Gulf War a report on ABC ne toooldtocare02/04/19
Lol at teachers working 6 hours after school ends...this doe irishlaw02/04/19
Teaching is an incredibly tough job, punishingly tough, and thecharmingmresq02/04/19
Yeah, it's so unfair. It's like blaming parents for the cond bangbus02/04/19
I think teachers should be paid more. A lot more. It doesn't superttthero02/04/19
Go on, poast the copypasta. You know you want to. phosita02/04/19
*inhales sharply through teeth* thecharmingmresq02/04/19
The teachers I know who claimed to work 60 hours a week woul fettywap02/04/19
Investigative journalism has been heavily subsidized by fluf chicagojoe02/04/19
"It seems that these professions are always fighting for res wutwutwut02/04/19
In (flaccid) defense of journalism, The Atlantic and The NYT wutwutwut02/04/19
Yeah. Some of their video stories are great (NYT). My post i superttthero02/04/19
Journalism is about selling advertisements for cars and dish normshow02/04/19
OP, it's ok to not care. Like why are you even hearing these theimmigrant02/05/19
The girls I knew who were the biggest degenerates in college actionbronson02/05/19
superttthero (Feb 4, 2019 - 10:03 am)

It seems that these professions are always fighting for respect and better pay, benefits, etc., by pushing the narrative of the mythical perfect "teacher," or "cop" or "reporter."

Every time teachers talk about pay, they trot out some sob story about having to work 6 hours after school, and spending thousands on materials. I am sure these teachers exist, but I think most of us remember how many teachers basically where checked out--they would put on videos and just chat with a few kids and ignore the rest.

Police, same. Too much of the community has had a run-in with a authority-demanding cop that yells for no reason and gets off on the power.

Journalists are the worst. Sure, some are going into war zones and trying to be unbiased, but the VAST majority of what is journalism today is just click-baity and blatant rip-off from other sites, sources. Spinning twitter outrage, with no real metric or analysis, is a significant number of stories coming out of "news" outlets. True investigative journalism is basically dead.

/rant

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onefortheteam (Feb 4, 2019 - 10:20 am)

How exactly do you expect true investigative journalism to happen when there's little money left in journalism?

When was the last time you invested any real amount of money into periodicals without first checking to see if you can get the same information faster and for free online?

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superttthero (Feb 4, 2019 - 10:25 am)

The problem is bigger than people not spending on journalism.

Most of news sources are now owned by publicly traded companies. If tomorrow the NYT or WP had an increase in 200% of their paid-readership they would still do what they could do maximize profits, at the expense of true journalism.

One is owned by the riches man in the world and will push his agendas, the other is owned by a publicly traded company and will put out whatever sells the most at every point (editorial board be dammed) because ultimately, next quarters earnings need to be above last (always and forever).

I agree the fault is that of society, but lets not kid ourselves that the problem is "lack of money."

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onefortheteam (Feb 4, 2019 - 10:37 am)

Well of course every business is going to do what it can to maximize profits, it would irresponsible of a publicly traded for profit enterprise not do so.

I don't know what would happen if there were a 200% increase in viewership, it just seems to me for the time being that spending money on true on site investigative journalism is a losing venture when we're living in the age of the information highway.

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eagleton (Feb 4, 2019 - 10:59 am)

Journalists are the most in love with themselves. Journalist killed reporting in war zone! is always a top headline when like 5000 others died that day.

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toooldtocare (Feb 4, 2019 - 11:40 am)

Indeed; remember after the first Gulf War a report on ABC news that X number of soldiers received commendations, with the strong suggestion that such number of awards was ridiculous. This of course was followed by a commercial break, where it was noted they had won the "prestigious" such and such journalism award, which was then followed by the local news bragging it had won x number of local Emmy awards.

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irishlaw (Feb 4, 2019 - 11:16 am)

Lol at teachers working 6 hours after school ends...this doesn’t happen. My sister is an elementary school teacher and charges $50-$100 dollars an hour for after school tutoring and summer tutoring...she makes bank.

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thecharmingmresq (Feb 4, 2019 - 12:24 pm)

Teaching is an incredibly tough job, punishingly tough, and for reasons you can’t mention in polite society.
Some fraction of iq is nature. We can leave off discussion of what %, but surely SOME percent is.
But teaching is set up as if it’s not. It formally is set up so that if a certain fraction can’t pass a certain level of math and English, the teacher gets punished. Who in their right mind thinks THAT’S fair?

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bangbus (Feb 4, 2019 - 12:44 pm)

Yeah, it's so unfair. It's like blaming parents for the conduct of their children

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superttthero (Feb 4, 2019 - 12:47 pm)

I think teachers should be paid more. A lot more. It doesn't mean I think the current crop of teachers are as a hole martyrs and worthy of 6 figures.

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phosita (Feb 4, 2019 - 6:10 pm)

Go on, poast the copypasta. You know you want to.

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thecharmingmresq (Feb 4, 2019 - 6:26 pm)

*inhales sharply through teeth*

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fettywap (Feb 4, 2019 - 12:51 pm)

The teachers I know who claimed to work 60 hours a week would count getting out of bed and getting ready and driving to work as work. Um, we all work 60 hours if you count that. I guarantee my drive to work is worse than a teacher's. They all get a planning period during the day. If they can't get their work done at school, it's their own fault.

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chicagojoe (Feb 4, 2019 - 2:20 pm)

Investigative journalism has been heavily subsidized by fluff for years. The only argument is what kind of fluff.

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wutwutwut (Feb 4, 2019 - 6:21 pm)

"It seems that these professions are always fighting for respect "


I think the notion of being represented under a collective bargaining agreement is detrimental to the notion of being a "professional".

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wutwutwut (Feb 4, 2019 - 6:23 pm)

In (flaccid) defense of journalism, The Atlantic and The NYT still do some well researched, carefully developed stuff.

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superttthero (Feb 4, 2019 - 6:28 pm)

Yeah. Some of their video stories are great (NYT). My post is in general, and there are exceptions from certain players from time to time.

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normshow (Feb 4, 2019 - 11:37 pm)

Journalism is about selling advertisements for cars and dishwashing liquid. Any reporting that goes on is incidental.

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theimmigrant (Feb 5, 2019 - 8:18 am)

OP, it's ok to not care. Like why are you even hearing these people out? You've already heard their BS 100 times.

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actionbronson (Feb 5, 2019 - 12:16 pm)

The girls I knew who were the biggest degenerates in college ended up being schoolteachers. I'm not sure if this was always the case, but if my experience is any indication, the profession of teaching nowadays is a haven for trick-ass hoes and heavily tatted radical feminists. I'm an atheist and was never fond of the idea of sending my offspring to private/Christian school, but given WHO seems to be doing the teaching in public schools, I'm tempted to go the private route. With that said, I do not oppose giving teachers more pay, but the question is how much more, especially when they get almost three months off every year with the summers off and the holidays, and better health plans than one gets in the private sector.

Of the three professions, journalists are both the most obnoxious about how much respect they think they deserve AND delusional about the role they play in society.

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