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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti cles/2019-02-01/major-dna jorgedeclaro02/02/19
And in addition, the tests-for your "heritage"-aren't partic toooldtocare02/02/19
Yep. Here’s identical twins getting different results and jorgedeclaro02/02/19
I was really mad at my sister for giving our parents tests f whatnext02/02/19
what i find odd is that all tech companies have a surveillan whiteguyinchina02/02/19
This is because people *want* to be seen. "Tell me how far jeffm02/02/19
Anyone ever read David Brin’s work on this kind of thing? therewillbeblood02/02/19
I did one of these tests. My father was adopted. We found massivemissive02/02/19
Let me know what Zyklon B smells like when you find out. jorgedeclaro02/02/19
Almonds. phosita02/03/19
Did the family want to be found? I also think this comes up thirdtierlaw02/03/19
https://abovethelaw.com/2018/09/fer tility-doctor-tries-to-sq jorgedeclaro02/03/19
I've noticed a few black Americans doing this to find out wh kickflipninja02/02/19
Really odd to see you say this. “Nigeria” Does Not Exis thecharmingmresq02/02/19
jorgedeclaro (Feb 2, 2019 - 11:08 am)

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-02-01/major-dna-testing-company-is-sharing-genetic-data-with-the-fbi

FamilyTreeDNA, an early pioneer of the rapidly growing market for consumer genetic testing, confirmed late Thursday that it has granted the Federal Bureau of Investigation access to its vast trove of nearly 2 million genetic profiles.
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Of course they are. And even if they weren’t, nothing would prevent the police from submitting a sample of a suspects DNA anyway.

Stop giving your DNA to the government just so a stupid website can tell you you’re 23% Laplander with a 50% confidence interval. Who knows what the government will want with peoples DNA 20-30 years from now. You’ve probably doomed you and your entire family to some form of concentration camp.

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toooldtocare (Feb 2, 2019 - 1:59 pm)

And in addition, the tests-for your "heritage"-aren't particularly accurate, anyway.
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/family-dna-ancestry-tests-review-comparison

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jorgedeclaro (Feb 2, 2019 - 8:01 pm)

Yep. Here’s identical twins getting different results and slamming the default 50% confidence interval.

https://youtu.be/Isa5c1p6aC0

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whatnext (Feb 2, 2019 - 12:04 pm)

I was really mad at my sister for giving our parents tests from one of these companies. She did it before I could say anything. I gave her a pretty heated talking to. No surprises, either. No documents that were particularly interesting.

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whiteguyinchina (Feb 2, 2019 - 1:04 pm)

what i find odd is that all tech companies have a surveillance state valuation

whether it is fitbit, facebook,
apple, uber, DNA registries, all of internet, etc. part of their value is how it helps to spy on humans in some way.

but I just can't figure out how that is actually a productive activity to justify such valuations

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jeffm (Feb 2, 2019 - 1:43 pm)

This is because people *want* to be seen. "Tell me how far I ran and how fast." "I'm here; how do I get there?" "Look at my new car!" "Here's me on vacation."

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therewillbeblood (Feb 2, 2019 - 1:06 pm)

Anyone ever read David Brin’s work on this kind of thing? He thinks the answer is to just (to simplify) have everyone have everyone’s data, in a fully transparent society.

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massivemissive (Feb 2, 2019 - 5:36 pm)

I did one of these tests. My father was adopted. We found his family. So, for us it was worth it. Don't generalize.

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jorgedeclaro (Feb 2, 2019 - 7:59 pm)

Let me know what Zyklon B smells like when you find out.

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phosita (Feb 3, 2019 - 11:20 am)

Almonds.

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thirdtierlaw (Feb 3, 2019 - 12:14 pm)

Did the family want to be found? I also think this comes up in the situation of sperm donors.

These companies are going to start discouraging people from donating sperm or giving kids up for adoption because of the risk that the kid will come looking for them 15-18 years later.

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jorgedeclaro (Feb 3, 2019 - 12:17 pm)

https://abovethelaw.com/2018/09/fertility-doctor-tries-to-squirm-his-way-out-of-liability/

Especially if you weren’t supposed to be the donor.

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kickflipninja (Feb 2, 2019 - 7:07 pm)

I've noticed a few black Americans doing this to find out what country or tribe their ancestors came from since slavery all but eradicated lineage tracking. When I saw people doing that, I was glad that I didn't need that. Full blooded Nigerian.

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thecharmingmresq (Feb 2, 2019 - 8:38 pm)

Really odd to see you say this. “Nigeria” Does Not Exist, and it’s odd to see you mention it w/in the same context as Tribe.
The cool thing about dna tests for American blacks is tribal affiliation. Not colonial line drawing

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