In which I try and offer some constructive advice

Here: http://phillylawblog.wordpress.com/ 2013/05/16/the-hjordan05/16/13
In which I self-promote and call it "advice"saulgoodman05/16/13
I say something in a mean way with references to Maury Povicjordan05/16/13
I don't particularly claim to be here because I'm trying to saulgoodman05/16/13
Also, curious about why you are so certain that I am a "failsaulgoodman05/16/13
He doesn't need to be psychic. You're legitimately a loser. lawsthetics05/17/13
What's wrong with watching Steve Wilkos? STEVE! STEVE! STbangbus05/17/13
Uh, wow. I hadn't realized that you are the arbiter of what saulgoodman05/17/13
In which I acknowledge being a wanker. I did overlook thesaulgoodman05/16/13
I'm sorry. You're right. You shouldn't get over it, and you jordan05/17/13
Give us a summary please, jordan150. I'm not going to give bangbus05/17/13
Don't forget - I got a 149 before achieving a 150. Whichjordan05/17/13
Noted jordan149. Summary please.bangbus05/17/13
Go out and do stuff instead of moping, and maybe clients or jordan05/17/13
Stop patting yourself on the back, insulting others, and calcodenameduchess05/17/13
You do understand that I don't get paid to serve on my localjordan05/17/13
I read your article, and it was hackneyed garbage. Get ocodenameduchess05/17/13
Jordan, I will say that your sharing this kind of info from dupednontraditional05/17/13
Good article, Jordan. One point worth re-emphasizing: don't patentesq05/17/13
jordan (May 16, 2013 - 11:59 am)

Here:

http://phillylawblog.wordpress.com/2013/05/16/the-hustle-a-week-in-the-life-of-a-young-self-employed-lawyer/

This is what has worked for me. Your milage may vary.

Admittedly, I have no life between the practice and all the other stuff. Like, none whatsoever. But I love all the volunteer stuff I do, and all the great people I've met through it.

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saulgoodman (May 16, 2013 - 3:11 pm)

In which I self-promote and call it "advice"

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jordan (May 16, 2013 - 3:30 pm)

I say something in a mean way with references to Maury Povich and you cry that it's insulting. Then I try and offer something constructive, based on my own personal experiences, and its self promotion.

I can't say surprised, though. I don't think you are interested in trying to help anyone out. You lashed out at me like a petulant child because you have one goal - to try and bring everyone down to your level of pathetic.

Since you're a failure, everyone else should be, too. It couldn't possibly be you. It's everyone else.

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saulgoodman (May 16, 2013 - 3:38 pm)

I don't particularly claim to be here because I'm trying to help anyone. I don't want to bring anyone down, but I don't care for your brand of "helping people" as I don't think you really help anyone either.

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saulgoodman (May 16, 2013 - 3:42 pm)

Also, curious about why you are so certain that I am a "failure". Are you psychic?

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lawsthetics (May 17, 2013 - 12:50 am)

He doesn't need to be psychic. You're legitimately a loser. Even if you're successful, the fact you come on here and dispell anybody who tries to give helpful advice because you don't agree with their way of phrasing it while offering nothing of value yourself speaks volumes of you as a person.

I bet, in fact, you do watch Maury, followed up by Steve Wilkos. Wah, the lawl skewls destroyed my life. Wah. Weep until you can swim in it all.

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bangbus (May 17, 2013 - 1:06 am)

What's wrong with watching Steve Wilkos?

STEVE! STEVE! STEVE! STEVE!

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saulgoodman (May 17, 2013 - 9:20 am)

Uh, wow. I hadn't realized that you are the arbiter of what constitutes contributions "of value" on JDU. Also, your style of text and your tone are strikingly similar to jordan's. How cute.

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saulgoodman (May 16, 2013 - 10:36 pm)

In which I acknowledge being a wanker.

I did overlook the two paragraphs where you list the "specifics", so, that was my bad.

But, I overlooked them because I stopped really reading after the "get over it" line. Now, I see the specific suggestions, right between the "get over it" and the "no one will ever improve their lot by sitting on the couch in their parentsí basement, munching on Cheetos and playing Mortal Kombat."

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jordan (May 17, 2013 - 11:32 am)

I'm sorry. You're right. You shouldn't get over it, and you will improve your lot by sitting on the couch in your parents' basement, munching on Cheetos and playing Mortal Kombat.

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bangbus (May 17, 2013 - 12:37 am)

Give us a summary please, jordan150. I'm not going to give you any traffic.

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jordan (May 17, 2013 - 10:34 am)

Don't forget - I got a 149 before achieving a 150.

Which was just good enough to slide into a T4 law school.

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bangbus (May 17, 2013 - 11:22 am)

Noted jordan149. Summary please.

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jordan (May 17, 2013 - 11:32 am)

Go out and do stuff instead of moping, and maybe clients or prospective employers will hire you.

Along with specific stuff I enjoy doing, that I've found works for my own practice.

I got a 149 on the LSAT, though, so take what I say with a grain of salt. LSAT and law school ranking is a very, very important part the practice of law.

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codenameduchess (May 17, 2013 - 7:47 am)

Stop patting yourself on the back, insulting others, and calling it help.

There's nothing new or illuminating about the points you make. Your help isn't about others, it's about you,

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jordan (May 17, 2013 - 1:22 pm)

You do understand that I don't get paid to serve on my local RCO and zoning board, right? It's something anyone can do if you are interested.

And while your arguments are all very clever, and my feelings are deeply hurt by the guy who correctly pointed out that my LSAT score isn't good, none of that stuff is going to make anyone money, get anyone clients, or help anyone find a job.

But maybe, just maybe, one person will read my post and say "Huh, joining a civic association sounds interesting. Maybe I'll do that." And it will turn into something like a client or a job... or at least be a good time.

The people commenting aren't interested in helping anyone, though. They just want to wallow in misery, which if fine I guess, but it's also not productive in the least bit.

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codenameduchess (May 17, 2013 - 6:12 pm)

I read your article, and it was hackneyed garbage.

Get over yourself.

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dupednontraditional (May 17, 2013 - 3:50 pm)

Jordan, I will say that your sharing this kind of info from "real life" is something that Law Schools need to own up to and emphasize a lot more. Hopefully people will read your posts. Few want to talk about how much work it takes (even "fun" work) to generate an actual network from whence may come future clients.

It would cut into applications and the sweet, sweet flow of student loans, of course, but it would also help regulate the market for those who are really passionate/cut out for the nature of the job, and that's better for everybody in the long run.

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patentesq (May 17, 2013 - 4:47 pm)

Good article, Jordan. One point worth re-emphasizing: don't just join a group, become actively involved & get into leadership positions.

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