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Charleston Law rebounds

It will be interesting to see next year's 509. http://www kaneloa07/12/17
I always get Charleston mixed up with Charlotte, though I gu therewillbeblood07/12/17
reads like the Onion God bless the students that enroll t themapmaster07/12/17
Charleston is a good town. If you're going to take a ton no doublefriedchicken07/12/17
I looked up its most recent 509. LSAT: 149/145/141 So abo kaneloa07/12/17
I laughed at this part: "... while keeping tuition in c shuiz07/12/17
Plus, after having the honor of paying over 120 large in tui 6figuremistake07/13/17
"We encourage students immediately after getting out of scho bankofmouse07/13/17
Agreed. Also, this law dean gravely underestimates the diffi defectoantesto07/13/17
That's one of the dumbest things said ever-- who goes to law cranky07/14/17
How much has the good dean given back? toooldtocare07/13/17
The notion of giving back coming from deans and professors w rwhyan07/14/17
kaneloa (Jul 12, 2017 - 8:17 pm)

It will be interesting to see next year's 509.

http://www.postandcourier.com/news/charleston-school-of-law-off-u-s-education-department-s/article_61753d12-5212-11e7-a67e-c3bd31917028.html

everal years after the Charleston School of Law became engulfed in chaos over a pending sale to a private company, its president says the institution has rebounded in enrollment and finances.

"The school is turning around quicker than anyone could imagine," President Ed Bell said Friday. "We literally thought it would take four to five years, but we've done it in less than two."

Bell noted that in October 2015, the school had only 82 members in its freshman class. Last year, that had climbed to 202, and he said he expects between 200 and 225 this fall.

He pointed out law school enrollment is dropping in general across the country, "and we're actually bucking the trend."

Meanwhile, the law school's Financial Ratio Responsibility score — a federal benchmark of a school's financial health — rose from a failing minus 0.6 in 2014 and 2015, to 2.6 last year, he said.

A school must score a 1.5 or higher to avoid getting on the department's so-called "naughty list." The Department of Education has not published its 2015-16 list.

"We've made some good decisions. We've kept our cost in check. ... We've hired back our professors," he said. "We made a little money last year, and all of that is being plowed back into school. We're building our facilities, improving our library and improving our course schedule."

The Charleston School of Law's low points came as it wrestled with student and faculty blowback over a plan to sell the for-profit school to InfiLaw, a Naples, Florida-based consortium of lower-tier law schools. Instead, Bell, a Georgetown lawyer, took over in 2015 and is leading a transition to a nonprofit.

That's taking time as state and federal agencies scrutinize the school's plans for any additional money it might make in the future.

"One of our applications (for nonprofit status) is over 800 pages," he said. "We're going along according to schedule, but it's going to take a little while to finalize the transition."

It was able to pay off a $6 million debt to InfilLaw while keeping tuition in check. Tuition for the upcoming year is $40,596.

The school is appealing its failing rating on another federal list that compares graduates' incomes with their student debt. Bell said his goal is that future students can cut their student debt in half within five years — without abandoning the school's emphasis on encouraging graduates to take unconventional jobs, at least at first.

"We encourage students immediately after getting out of school just to take a couple of years and give back," he said. "Go be a policeman, go be a fireman. Go work as a law clerk. A lot of these are low-paying jobs, but it teaches them something they will take with them for the rest of their lives."

"As of July 1, we'll be off the list and we will never get back on it again, according to what we've been told by DOE," he said.

A spokesman at the department provided only the current rankings and would not verify Bell's claim.

Meanwhile, the school's other positive benchmarks include its students' success in national moot court competitions (It won an unprecedented sixth straight title in the National Tax Moot Court championship earlier this year) and with the Princeton Review, which rates its faculty in its Top 10 for two years in a row.

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therewillbeblood (Jul 12, 2017 - 8:52 pm)

I always get Charleston mixed up with Charlotte, though I guess there isn't that much difference among them...

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themapmaster (Jul 12, 2017 - 8:54 pm)

reads like the Onion

God bless the students that enroll there thinking they're accomplished because they're going to law school. . .

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doublefriedchicken (Jul 12, 2017 - 10:26 pm)

Charleston is a good town. If you're going to take a ton non dischargeable debt and not get a job, there are worse places to be than Charleston.

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kaneloa (Jul 12, 2017 - 10:38 pm)

I looked up its most recent 509.
LSAT: 149/145/141
So about 3/4 of last year's entering class has no business being in law school.

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shuiz (Jul 12, 2017 - 11:12 pm)

I laughed at this part:

"... while keeping tuition in check

... $40,596."

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6figuremistake (Jul 13, 2017 - 8:27 am)

Plus, after having the honor of paying over 120 large in tuition alone, the school encourages students to give back to the community: "We encourage students immediately after getting out of school just to take a couple of years and give back," he said. "Go be a policeman, go be a fireman. Go work as a law clerk. A lot of these are low-paying jobs, but it teaches them something they will take with them for the rest of their lives."

The only thing that they're going to take with them for the rest of their lives is their six figures debts.

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bankofmouse (Jul 13, 2017 - 11:36 am)

"We encourage students immediately after getting out of school just to take a couple of years and give back," he said. "Go be a policeman, go be a fireman. Go work as a law clerk. A lot of these are low-paying jobs, but it teaches them something they will take with them for the rest of their lives."


This is ridiculous. They blatantly don't care about the students. You charge them $40k a year and tell them to become a police officer. I have utmost respect for law enforcement, but if you want to become a police office, go to a community college and get an associates degree in criminal justice. Probably won't cost more than $4-$5k total.

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defectoantesto (Jul 13, 2017 - 12:04 pm)

Agreed. Also, this law dean gravely underestimates the difficulty of just "being" a firefighter or police officer. In many place the applicant lists for these jobs are years long, and people literally get 4 year college degrees specifically to qualify for them. It is beyond naive for him to think that a Chaleston law grad will just "go be" a police officer for a couple years like it is as easy as getting a job at KFC. Give me a break.

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cranky (Jul 14, 2017 - 11:14 am)

That's one of the dumbest things said ever-- who goes to law school to come out unemployable as a lawyer, in order to be a fireman, police officer, click monkey at doc review, waitress, clown at kids' parties?! Shut this terrible joke of a law school down!

And while I agree Charleston can a fun place to visit and play around when you have (student loan) money, those poor saps that go to Charleston law aren't even going to be able to enjoy any of the fun stuff as they struggle to even get doc review.

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toooldtocare (Jul 13, 2017 - 1:23 pm)

How much has the good dean given back?

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rwhyan (Jul 14, 2017 - 9:56 am)

The notion of giving back coming from deans and professors who had much greater opportunities available to them while only paying a fraction of the tuition price bothers me to no end. The founders of CSOL split $25 million in profits between them instead of reinvesting in the school. Talk about giving back. http://www.postandcourier.com/politics/state-panel-rejects-law-school-sale/article_a15e4eca-eef8-58d9-be1c-97e569005fc8.html

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