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Smaller Secondary Market SSA Positions

I know there was a massive SSA thread a little while back so mrtor06/15/17
They hire through law school postings or other job boards. H downwardslope06/15/17
Before I went out to Guam, I found an SSA listing on Monster kramer71606/15/17
They advertise all over, but it seems bizarre. Like there ma downwardslope06/15/17
There was a mass hiring binge a couple of months ago on USAJ kramer71606/15/17
So--- most do not hire through USAJobs, but the unions compl downwardslope06/15/17
How long did it take to start seeing your applications revie mrtor06/19/17
It usually takes a few weeks. There are several more posting downwardslope06/19/17
Thank you for the tip regarding new announcements. IT seems kramer71606/19/17
Tons of attorney advisor postings just went up today: Charlo killself12306/19/17
Thank you very much. I applied for Charlotte, Atlanta, Hatti kramer71606/19/17
I'm a current SSA employee and would be happy to answer any killself12306/19/17
How was the hiring process for you? Was there a long time la kramer71606/19/17
My understanding is that it is either very fast or 6+ months downwardslope06/19/17
Knock on wood regarding the fast part. I will go anywhere, s kramer71606/19/17
No. That was in person. I was local. They had one non-local downwardslope06/19/17
No worries. I will happily go to Charlotte, Hattiesburg, Lex kramer71606/19/17
Did you do the usajobs resume? downwardslope06/19/17
I did. I learned my lesson after the ass kicking I received kramer71606/19/17
I meant $90 mil... typo there. Kramer- training is around 3 downwardslope06/19/17
Thank you. I appreciate everyone's advice/assistance with th kramer71606/19/17
Usually there is a nationwide training for the 3-week one bu downwardslope06/19/17
Thank you again. If they do it regionally I would assume the kramer71606/19/17
They do a national. It doesn't seem to have a rhyme or reaso downwardslope06/19/17
Interesting. Where was yours? Did you do an extended stay ho kramer71606/19/17
You don't pay for anything, don't worry. I went to St. Louis downwardslope06/19/17
Interesting. I am curious what the logic is regarding where kramer71606/20/17
I just started this year. I think they are hiring lots more downwardslope06/22/17
For some reason, I thought I saw you had been there for year kramer71606/22/17
I have interviewed multiple times. I did not get hired in 20 downwardslope06/22/17
Gotcha. Your pattern, well except for the getting hired part kramer71606/22/17
It was actually relatively quickly because it was the end of killself12306/19/17
Also, it was in person. killself12306/19/17
I appreciate it. What city are you in? If you don't want to kramer71606/19/17
NYC area killself12306/19/17
Nice. I am in Upstate NY at the moment, although opposite en kramer71606/19/17
Best of luck. It's a decent place to work. The workload can killself12306/19/17
Thank you. I would love the opportunity to work there. At my kramer71606/19/17
Just curious if anyone else applied for the SSA openings in kramer71606/26/17
I applied for one in central IL in mid-June. Application sho mrtor06/26/17
Damn, missed that one. Where was it in IL? Springfield? Good kramer71606/26/17
Not referred. Insufficient documentation of my license statu mrtor06/26/17
My sympathies. Call them up and yell. I sent a picture of my kramer71606/26/17

mrtor (Jun 15, 2017 - 11:07 am)

I know there was a massive SSA thread a little while back so I am hoping to draw upon the collective knowledge and wisdom of those who have already been through the process. Can any of you comment on the hiring process for attorney advisors for smaller markets (300k metro area)? How quickly can you expect to hear back? Are we talking days? Weeks? Months?

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downwardslope (Jun 15, 2017 - 12:46 pm)

They hire through law school postings or other job boards. How fast it is depends on how long it takes to hire. It can take a few weeks or 9 months depending on the urgency. Now it is more urgent so I would guess it would be quicker. If they hire through law school/jobsites other than usajobs, it is usually to speed up the process, but those are term appointments.

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kramer716 (Jun 15, 2017 - 1:25 pm)

Before I went out to Guam, I found an SSA listing on Monster. This was 2008. I sent my stuff in, and the next day they emailed me for an interview. The position was in Baltimore. I didn't get it, hence Guam, but that was the only time I have ever seen an SSA position not advertised on USAJOBS. It is good to know that they advertise in other places, still.

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downwardslope (Jun 15, 2017 - 1:30 pm)

They advertise all over, but it seems bizarre. Like there may be one in your town but you hear about one 50 miles away and not that one because the one in your town might only post on one law school's website. My 2010 interview was from a posting from a local law school that a friend sent. I assume that is where they post today but since I did not go there I would never see it. I know of one town where all the new hires went to one law school. It is not the best in that town or the only in that town.

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kramer716 (Jun 15, 2017 - 1:54 pm)

There was a mass hiring binge a couple of months ago on USAJOBS. I think the smallest towns I saw on there were Orland Park, IL and Lansing, MI.

They just posted an ad for Alexandria, but I think that lasted an hour or so before they reached their quota. Anyway, would love to see some jobs advertised on MSU's site.

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downwardslope (Jun 15, 2017 - 6:02 pm)

So--- most do not hire through USAJobs, but the unions complain about it because then you end up with say everyone in the Raleigh, NC office being from UNC and they have to know to go on there to look. They just post to like one law school and call it a day. I think SSA got 90 billion to reduce the backlog so there should be money for another set of hires soon.

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mrtor (Jun 19, 2017 - 8:04 am)

How long did it take to start seeing your applications reviewed/referred after the listing closed?

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downwardslope (Jun 19, 2017 - 8:24 am)

It usually takes a few weeks. There are several more postings today although it says they are limited to "attorney advisors" whatever that means. It does not look limited to current employees since it starts at gs-9.

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kramer716 (Jun 19, 2017 - 9:51 am)

Thank you for the tip regarding new announcements. IT seems there is a hiring trend in the south.

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killself123 (Jun 19, 2017 - 11:59 am)

Tons of attorney advisor postings just went up today: Charlotte, Atlanta, Lexington Kentucky, Hattiesburg, and Raleigh.

Good luck!

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kramer716 (Jun 19, 2017 - 12:46 pm)

Thank you very much. I applied for Charlotte, Atlanta, Hattiesburg, and Raleigh. I missed Lexington, so will apply there now.

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killself123 (Jun 19, 2017 - 12:01 pm)

I'm a current SSA employee and would be happy to answer any questions.

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kramer716 (Jun 19, 2017 - 12:47 pm)

How was the hiring process for you? Was there a long time lag from when you applied until you were interviewed or was it pretty quick?

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downwardslope (Jun 19, 2017 - 1:14 pm)

My understanding is that it is either very fast or 6+ months. This is a 90 bil appropriation that I assume they need to use this FY. It should be fast. They have to do detailed reporting to the legislature as to how the money is used, so if they are not moving along, it will look really bad.

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kramer716 (Jun 19, 2017 - 1:34 pm)

Knock on wood regarding the fast part. I will go anywhere, so if the Barrow AK office is hiring. Let's rock and roll.

Sorry, I missed your earlier post re: the 2010 interview. Did you do that over the phone?

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downwardslope (Jun 19, 2017 - 1:41 pm)

No. That was in person. I was local. They had one non-local person via phone though.

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kramer716 (Jun 19, 2017 - 1:45 pm)

No worries. I will happily go to Charlotte, Hattiesburg, Lexington, Raleigh, or Atlanta. Hell, not to beat the Alaska horse again, but if it's in Nome. I will head up to Nome.

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downwardslope (Jun 19, 2017 - 1:47 pm)

Did you do the usajobs resume?

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kramer716 (Jun 19, 2017 - 1:48 pm)

I did. I learned my lesson after the ass kicking I received during the last go round with SSA hiring.

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downwardslope (Jun 19, 2017 - 2:58 pm)

I meant $90 mil... typo there. Kramer- training is around 3 weeks for official and then there is additional unofficial training through a local office and a mentor.

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kramer716 (Jun 19, 2017 - 3:00 pm)

Thank you. I appreciate everyone's advice/assistance with this.

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downwardslope (Jun 19, 2017 - 3:14 pm)

Usually there is a nationwide training for the 3-week one but I think NYC area offices have their own. Otherwise it depends on the time of year and expense of the training locations as to where you go and how long you go, I think. People have gone to Baltimore, KC, StL, Falls Church, and Seattle in the past.

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kramer716 (Jun 19, 2017 - 3:16 pm)

Thank you again. If they do it regionally I would assume the training would be in Atlanta, but a national training would be interesting.

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downwardslope (Jun 19, 2017 - 5:12 pm)

They do a national. It doesn't seem to have a rhyme or reason where you go other than price of getting to the destination and hotel costs. You may be with people from different regions. The local depends on how they want to set it up. It may be with several offices in a local area or region.

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kramer716 (Jun 19, 2017 - 5:15 pm)

Interesting. Where was yours? Did you do an extended stay hotel, and did it kill you cost wise?

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downwardslope (Jun 19, 2017 - 8:51 pm)

You don't pay for anything, don't worry. I went to St. Louis. Basically they give you almost no notice... it is a great setup. It is pretty much "your training starts next week, oh and you can't miss any days" so most people end up having to miss because that's not realistic. I think if people have to miss the national portion and there is another national training, they may try to reassign you, but otherwise you can just make up the non-national portion. The national portion is only a week now, down from 2-3 weeks.

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kramer716 (Jun 20, 2017 - 9:17 am)

Interesting. I am curious what the logic is regarding where they hold the training, but I am more than willing to go wherever. Are you still with the SSA?

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downwardslope (Jun 22, 2017 - 1:40 pm)

I just started this year. I think they are hiring lots more though. We think it will be by 9/30 so I assume the postings will go up soon. I was told they are supposed to have 1.5 writers per judge and my office is barely squeaking in at 1:1 with the senior attorney. That is after a judge transferred. There has essentially been a freeze for several years with few hires outside of the case assistance centers/hearing centers. Almost everyone in my office was hired at the beginning term of the Obama administration. I heard that from several other new hires as well.

I heard they are trying to do 300 ALJs in one year in 2 groups instead of the usual 150 they had been doing the past couple of years.

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kramer716 (Jun 22, 2017 - 2:30 pm)

For some reason, I thought I saw you had been there for years. Did we talk before on that other thread? I will have to go back and check. If so, I am guessing you are in the Chicago office since that was the one that seemed to be hiring. Anyway, I will shut up. I have applications out to all the recent postings, so VA, NC, MS, and GA and hopefully one of those hits.

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downwardslope (Jun 22, 2017 - 2:52 pm)

I have interviewed multiple times. I did not get hired in 2010 and got hired by a state agency instead where I have worked in the interim.

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kramer716 (Jun 22, 2017 - 3:46 pm)

Gotcha. Your pattern, well except for the getting hired part, is similar to mine. I was interviewed to work in their main office back in 09 and wasn't picked up, so worked for an AG's office in the interim. Hopefully, I get picked up this go around.

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killself123 (Jun 19, 2017 - 1:50 pm)

It was actually relatively quickly because it was the end of the fiscal year, so they were trying to get in hires. I think the entire process took about a month - may be different from other people's experiences here.

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killself123 (Jun 19, 2017 - 1:52 pm)

Also, it was in person.

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kramer716 (Jun 19, 2017 - 1:55 pm)

I appreciate it. What city are you in? If you don't want to say the city, then what state?

My experience was with the VA, but it's skewed because of the GD hiring freeze, so I didn't get a rejection until March when I interviewed in December.

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killself123 (Jun 19, 2017 - 2:13 pm)

NYC area

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kramer716 (Jun 19, 2017 - 2:20 pm)

Nice. I am in Upstate NY at the moment, although opposite end of the state from you.

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killself123 (Jun 19, 2017 - 2:31 pm)

Best of luck. It's a decent place to work. The workload can get tedious, but the hours are great. Decent pay, good benefits, and lots of vacation time!

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kramer716 (Jun 19, 2017 - 2:34 pm)

Thank you. I would love the opportunity to work there. At my last job I handled child support cases which tend to ratchet up the drama, so I will take tedious.

How long was your training? Do you get a month shadowing someone, and then they dump you in the pool?

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kramer716 (Jun 26, 2017 - 2:11 pm)

Just curious if anyone else applied for the SSA openings in Atlanta, Charlotte, Raleigh, Lexington, or Hattiesburg. If you did, then would you please post if you hear anything, and I will do the same. Good luck to anyone who applied.

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mrtor (Jun 26, 2017 - 3:21 pm)

I applied for one in central IL in mid-June. Application shows "received" with no change since I applied.

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kramer716 (Jun 26, 2017 - 3:22 pm)

Damn, missed that one. Where was it in IL? Springfield? Good luck and thank you for the update.

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mrtor (Jun 26, 2017 - 6:15 pm)

Not referred. Insufficient documentation of my license status? The application instructions said a screenshot of your ARDC page showing active status was sufficient. At least get me on something substantive.

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kramer716 (Jun 26, 2017 - 7:44 pm)

My sympathies. Call them up and yell. I sent a picture of my bar card, so hopefully that works for them

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