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California bar difficulty

How hard is it REALLY? I'm at 20% completed in my bar prep c dietcoke06/15/17
you need to discipline yourself to do 4-8 essays a day. unlearnedhand06/15/17
You should be able to pass. People with 170 LSAT pass overwh guyingorillasuit06/15/17
"you need to discipline yourself to do 4-8 essays a day.: T jhbufford06/15/17
The bar is a rote, brute force exam. You need to get good a sjlawyer06/15/17
reread and memorize sample essays from barbri book. same stu defensivelawyer06/15/17
/ This. So incredibly true. My bar tutor suggested reading a becksquire06/15/17
Well the essay advice seems on point. I find I don't do well dietcoke06/19/17
I passed 3 bar exams. Practice exams and IRAC worked for me blakesq06/19/17
did you pass ca? ive taken the Bar in another easier stat defensivelawyer06/19/17
I did pass CA. CA was grueling, but I thought the patent b blakesq06/19/17
dietcoke (Jun 15, 2017 - 3:02 am)

How hard is it REALLY? I'm at 20% completed in my bar prep course and just over it. Am I screwed?

Good test taker, 170 LSAT, above median in LS.

Feeling like giving up.

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unlearnedhand (Jun 15, 2017 - 3:38 am)

you need to discipline yourself to do 4-8 essays a day.

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guyingorillasuit (Jun 15, 2017 - 4:15 am)

You should be able to pass. People with 170 LSAT pass overwhelmingly, as long as you put in the work. You are obviously better than most at multiple choice, but make sure you don't forget to practice the essays.

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jhbufford (Jun 15, 2017 - 9:51 am)

"you need to discipline yourself to do 4-8 essays a day.:
THIS IS STERLING ADVICE. FOLLOW IT. At first, your essay may be rough, but after you do enough, you will know how to write a bar exam essay. FOLLOW THIS ADVICE!!

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sjlawyer (Jun 15, 2017 - 9:57 am)

The bar is a rote, brute force exam. You need to get good at doing the essays quickly and efficiently. Best way to do that is to practice

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defensivelawyer (Jun 15, 2017 - 10:07 am)

reread and memorize sample essays from barbri book. same stuff kept coming up.

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becksquire (Jun 15, 2017 - 11:44 am)

/ This. So incredibly true. My bar tutor suggested reading all of the essays (as we studied each topic) and to recognize that the same subjects are included, but also that based on the call of the question, the answers were incredibly similar. For example, regarding community property, the first thing I wrote on the bar was "California is a community property state. Pursuant to Family Code 760 community property is defined as..." This is because the first paragraph in every single community property sample essay answer was exactly the same.

Basically, I had a canned response memorized for all types of questions so that I could throw points down on the paper. During the bar, day 1, essay 1 was community property. Everyone in the room is freaked the sh!t out, the proctor says "Go" I open my essay book and see that it is a community property question and I immediately start writing. "California is a community property state..." Guy next to me damn near dropped dead.

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dietcoke (Jun 19, 2017 - 8:13 am)

Well the essay advice seems on point. I find I don't do well on the essays even though I correctly identify all the issues. Just hard to articulate what I know in that format.

That said, I'm done if I fail this exam. I will not be retaking in February. I don't even want to work in law anymore, but what else can I do with $200k in debt? I should have just worked retail and had a cushy manager position.

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blakesq (Jun 19, 2017 - 8:48 am)

I passed 3 bar exams. Practice exams and IRAC worked for me. IRAC, in case they do not teach it anymore, but what saved me on the essays is: Issue spot, Rule statement, Analyze the facts, and give Conclusion based on rule and facts.

The trick is do spot as many issues as possible in each essay, and apply IRAC.

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defensivelawyer (Jun 19, 2017 - 10:27 am)

did you pass ca?

ive taken the Bar in another easier state.

the difference in questions on the essay is like hardball v slow pitch softball.

i passed one other state just memorizing the outline a few weeks.

CA is grueling. even really smart people cant overstudy.

IRAC is nice, but the Rs are a lot harder, obscure and require a lot of R spewing to get enough points.

definitely worth it to memorize all CA essays in essay book.

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blakesq (Jun 19, 2017 - 2:59 pm)

I did pass CA. CA was grueling, but I thought the patent bar was harder, even though it had no essays.

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