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Job offer - advice please

Hello, my wife has been looking in to a route in to law and jayx2a06/01/17
you may as well be speaking a foreign language. dingbat06/01/17
I think OP is speaking Brit, as in the United Kingdom of, wi wolfman06/01/17
limeysolicitor can probably weigh in more effectively, but I flyer1406/01/17
you're right that it's very different here, and you're wrong dingbat06/05/17
jayx2a (Jun 1, 2017 - 8:51 am)

Hello, my wife has been looking in to a route in to law and did her CILEX and went for a job locally.

The job is Conveyencing Assistant

They have offered a starting wage of 19k.
This goes up to 20k when they think she is ready to earn fees (target of 5000).

There is no timetable on when she would become a fee earner.

They have told her that if she want to earn 24-25k she will need to earn fees of 100,000, again we do not know when this would be.

Does this seem a lot?

She is already earning 25k and we are just gambling on whether this will be a good move going forward.

Any views and opinions welcome.

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dingbat (Jun 1, 2017 - 9:43 am)

you may as well be speaking a foreign language.

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wolfman (Jun 1, 2017 - 9:50 am)

I think OP is speaking Brit, as in the United Kingdom of, with Northern Ireland on top (God bless Northern Ireland, did you know Brit police carry guns there?).

OP, this is a primarily US-based board, but we do get Brits posting on here from time to time. Hopefully one will tell you something useful. From a US perspective, that's a hella low salary. Living must be cheap in old Blighty. I presume you are not in London?

How is this a route "in to law" though? What's her ultimate goal, to become a solicitor?

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flyer14 (Jun 1, 2017 - 9:57 am)

limeysolicitor can probably weigh in more effectively, but IIRC "law school" as we know it is vastly different on the other side of the pond... a "law degree" as they know it is more analogous to an LLM here, although it conveys the same license to practice law (or a barrister in their speak).

Even after adjusting for the pound to dollar ratio (and differences in average national income), 19k is on the low end of things. It depends on how difficult it is to generate the fees as a "conveyencing assistant", for which there's no job by that exact title here... what exactly is the job description?

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dingbat (Jun 5, 2017 - 9:57 am)

you're right that it's very different here, and you're wrong in thinking that a "law degree" is analogous to an LLM or that it conveys a license to practice law.

In England, you need to do a traineeship for several years, studying under an experienced attorney, before you can get licensed. There's a difference between a solicitor, who generally handles non-court matters or magistrate court (traffic tickets, theft) and a barrister, who generally does litigation in real courts (major crimes, civil litigation, appeals, etc.)

Basically, a solicitor is a glorified paralegal who can do basic sh*tlaw

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