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USAJOBS v. direct contact with federal agencies

Just found a job listing on my law school's career center we kramer71605/15/17
Yuge difference... that's how I got my fed job. flyer1405/15/17
Some agencies post almost all of their positions on sites ot downwardslope05/15/17
Are you sure the email address is valid? I cannot imagine a mrtor05/15/17
I can't guarantee the email is valid, but I sent my stuff in kramer71605/15/17
If it works, it could prove valuable. mrtor05/15/17
I just applied for a Federal Public Defender gig that was di lawyer205/15/17
Did you apply with the Federal Public Defender job as a resu kramer71605/15/17
No, it was actually posted on the agencies website. I've see lawyer205/15/17
kramer716 (May 15, 2017 - 2:02 pm)

Just found a job listing on my law school's career center website for a federal job. I was expecting to be directed to USAJOBS to apply, but they just gave an email address to send all the documents to. Does anyone know if this makes a difference, or does it not matter? I am assuming it probably does not matter, but figured I would pick your brains.

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flyer14 (May 15, 2017 - 2:20 pm)

Yuge difference... that's how I got my fed job.

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downwardslope (May 15, 2017 - 6:33 pm)

Some agencies post almost all of their positions on sites other than USAJobs. Aside from a couple of positions, HHS either posts its positions on its own OGC site or on law school career center websites. I've had someone at least contact me for more information from one of those postings, although I never got an interview.

I've actually gotten all my government jobs through the main government sites though (USAJobs and my state jobs through the state version), so you can have luck.

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mrtor (May 15, 2017 - 2:22 pm)

Are you sure the email address is valid? I cannot imagine a Fed job would allow certain schools' alumni to apply to a direct contact.

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kramer716 (May 15, 2017 - 2:26 pm)

I can't guarantee the email is valid, but I sent my stuff in, and it didn't get kicked back to me. It's not to a direct contact in the sense that it's not to Bob Smith. It was to what appears to be the General Counsel Human Resources division, so generic, but not through USAJOBS.

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mrtor (May 15, 2017 - 2:28 pm)

If it works, it could prove valuable.

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lawyer2 (May 15, 2017 - 3:23 pm)

I just applied for a Federal Public Defender gig that was directly with their office via email. I've had 0% success rate applying for any gig (law or otherwise) through the massive gov't sites.

I have a sneaking suspicion that most, if not damn near all jobs are allocated internally before being posted. Applying for jobs via the Internet has lowest return on investment of just about any activity I've ever participated in.

I read an article about how to find hiring managers via LinkedIn and contacting them directly which confirmed some of my suspicions on the futility of cold applying.

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kramer716 (May 15, 2017 - 3:38 pm)

Did you apply with the Federal Public Defender job as a result of getting ahold of someone on Linkedin?

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lawyer2 (May 15, 2017 - 3:44 pm)

No, it was actually posted on the agencies website. I've seen jobs listed on USAJOBS.com that have corresponding posting on the specific agencies website so, if time permits, make sure to check out their website an apply via there if possible.

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