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Bed bugs destroyed my physical and mental health, landlord ignored it for 2 years (he was informed)

Hi, I've been living for 2 years in a house rented to severa nhire05/10/17
Have you sought medical treatment, do you use drugs that cau jd4hire05/10/17
Why didn't you move? You could have easily broken your lease isthisit05/10/17
I think you just described the ultimate sh|tlaw case. Some tdkerabatsos05/10/17
If you're ok with a virtual attorney, maybe Trickydick will isthisit05/10/17
Excuse me, but trickydick is a TRIAL lawyer. Show some respe 3lol05/10/17
This is the sort of case I'd offer to take to settle for nui trickydick05/11/17
Have you considered this from the bed bugs' perspective? Thi sillydood05/10/17
I had my skin checked at local medical facility, I don't use nhire05/10/17
If it started a few months after you moved in, you most like fettywap05/10/17
How could it be possible to bring them yourself 6-7 months a nhire05/10/17
Did you get any furniture/mattress off the street, Craigslis isthisit05/10/17
Mattresses were already there, landlord bought them himself nhire05/10/17
You can probably sue, but never withhold rent without legal onehell05/10/17
I filed a bedbug case which settled for almost $40k. Another guyingorillasuit05/10/17
Thing is, the contract is spoken. We don't have any kind of nhire05/10/17
Mattresses were already there Mattresses were already the anonattempt05/10/17
"Mattresses were already there" is that not how you write it nhire05/10/17
I mean moving in somewhere with a furnished bed isn't crazy anonattempt05/10/17
Once bedbugs are found, the only way to get rid of them is t guyingorillasuit05/10/17
When you move out of that place, you should do truck fumigat nyclawyer05/10/17
That is an excellent idea. Another idea is to toss everythin guyingorillasuit05/10/17
nhire, can I ask, have you spoken to an attorney over there? superttthero05/10/17
"In a house rented to several people"...any one of whom coul whipster05/11/17
Have you considered negotiating with the bedbugs? Maybe dis unlearnedhand05/11/17

nhire (May 10, 2017 - 2:14 pm)

Hi, I've been living for 2 years in a house rented to several people.

The room I was in (and I still am for a couple more weeks) was invaded by bed bugs few months after I moved in. Before moving, I've never even seen a bed bug in my life, and I never had any sort of connection to them.

Our landlord was told about the whole thing, he saw my arms full of bites and scars due to me scratching my skin cause of itching and pain.

Me and my mother (she was living with me, however she moved out already) bought several things to get rid of them, about 60-80% of the cost was deducted from the rent.

The whole situation's been going for 2 years, landlord hasn't done anything to get rid of the bed bugs, even tho he has many houses, and he could simply let us stay somewhere else for a week, while he could use a whole lot of fumers and pesticides against bed bugs to entirely get rid of them.

Now, whenever something itches me at night I instantly wake up, pick up my phone and search my bed for few minutes checking if there's anything that's trying to bite me.

My body is in horrible state, my neck, my arms, my butt and legs are all in scars, bites, and tiny bulges due to all of this.

And here's my question, can I sue my landlord for taking no action along with mental and damage I sustained over the course of these 2 years?

If yes then how much can I get for such thing?

I doubt my body can be "repaired" of all this things.

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jd4hire (May 10, 2017 - 3:11 pm)

Have you sought medical treatment, do you use drugs that cause you to pick at your skin, did you have skin conditions prior, what proof of bed bugs do you have, what documentation do you have with your landlord, why in the world did you stay for two years given your knowledge of the issue after it began a "few months" after you moved in, are you on the lease, is your mother on the lease, did you have sketchy people stay with you, what furniture did you bring with you, etc.

You can sue anyone for anything. Whether the case can be successful is a totally different analysis. If you are interested in pursuing this, set up appointments with plaintiff attorneys.

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isthisit (May 10, 2017 - 3:34 pm)

Why didn't you move? You could have easily broken your lease. How many units? Did any other tenant complain about bed bugs?

You took self help efforts that failed to clear up the infestation and reduced these from the rent. OK. But then you stayed in the unit for 2 years. It sounds like it couldn't have been that bad if you stayed for 2 years.

Sky's the limit when it comes to jury awards (depending on your State) but who knows how a jury feels about your facts.

I know I wouldn't give you anything.

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tdkerabatsos (May 10, 2017 - 3:43 pm)

I think you just described the ultimate sh|tlaw case. Some desperate person will take it, but I'm probably not awarding anything if I'm the jury. Hope you're OK with a nuisance settlement.

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isthisit (May 10, 2017 - 3:51 pm)

If you're ok with a virtual attorney, maybe Trickydick will take the case.

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3lol (May 10, 2017 - 5:16 pm)

Excuse me, but trickydick is a TRIAL lawyer. Show some respect.

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trickydick (May 11, 2017 - 12:15 am)

This is the sort of case I'd offer to take to settle for nuisance value. I'd file a claim against the general liability carrier, if any, and hope for the best.

But odds are any significant relief this guy could get would be through an unlawful detainer action. I wouldn't touch that.

I rarely sign up premises liability cases since 90% of the time the potential client has no evidence establishing the existence of the alleged defect and almost never has any documented notice.

I did handle a case where a tenant had been renting a house and had sent multiple letters to the landlord complaining about exposed wiring by the driveway. The landlord refused to address the problem. Sure enough, the poor tenant was electrocuted when one of the wires got loose during a storm. They had numerous photos documenting the defect. The case settled within a few months for six figures.

That said, I know a guy who claims to make a killing handling nickel and dime slip and fall cases. That certainly hasn't been my experience with premises liability cases, where usually I'm trying to get a couple of thousand for some jackass who slipped on a banana peel or swallowed a toothpick with no evidence establishing the existence of said banana or toothpick.

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sillydood (May 10, 2017 - 3:52 pm)

Have you considered this from the bed bugs' perspective? Think about how they feel.

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nhire (May 10, 2017 - 5:08 pm)

I had my skin checked at local medical facility, I don't use any sort of drugs, I said the bed bug issue started few months after we moved in, however we weren't fully aware of it, I was constantly bitten and I had no idea what it was, I couldn't find any sort of bug around when I was getting bitten as well.
We found out about bed bugs 2 or 3 months later.

We then started fuming the room, the amount of bed bugs was decreased, I wasn't beaten as much, but few weeks after it began once again, and it took the same turn few more times for the next few months.

After that, I slept on the coach, where bed bugs haven't been seen, I've been sleeping on it for the next 4 or 5 months, after that, my mom started to get bitten as well and we once again treated the room with a series of fumers, sprays and other products.

This issue has place in UK, London, not in US.

Even now, the bet bugs followed my mother to the other apartment she moved to.

If you want I could attach some pictures with how my skin looks like right now, oh and btw, my butt is so badly bitten EVERYWHERE that it litterally changed color, to something like rotten rose.

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fettywap (May 10, 2017 - 5:19 pm)

If it started a few months after you moved in, you most likely brought them in yourself. Your landlord would not be responsible.

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nhire (May 10, 2017 - 5:25 pm)

How could it be possible to bring them yourself 6-7 months after moving when there was nothing in previous 2 houses we lived in?

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isthisit (May 10, 2017 - 5:30 pm)

Did you get any furniture/mattress off the street, Craigslist, a friend?

It sounds like the bed bugs followed your mom to her new place so she may get booted out.

I'm not a UK attorney so I can't advise you but the facts aren't looking good from my POV.

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nhire (May 10, 2017 - 5:50 pm)

Mattresses were already there, landlord bought them himself some time ago, the only furniture we got was a wardrobe and few other furniture we got from ebay or some other shops that sell furniture.
So it could not come from there.

Im guessing the bed bugs may have stayed in her bed sheets or something, probably just few, since she's leaving in a small room right now, so they have nowhere to go but to her bed.

http://imgur.com/a/SePAh here's a picture of how my back/butt looks like right now, arms are similar, same for legs.

A friend of mine who somehow knows law, says that it's possible to do something about this based on the damage of the tenant's health.

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onehell (May 10, 2017 - 6:21 pm)

You can probably sue, but never withhold rent without legal advice. Rules on rent withholding vary a lot state to state and doing it wrong can get you evicted.

And if you do sue, landlords in my experience ALWAYS claim the tenant or one of the co-tenants was at fault and may even bring counterclaims. Causation is really hard to prove with bedbugs, so it's risky. Regardless of result, don't expect a lease renewal or positive reference. People with a track record of suing landlords are not the most desirable tenants.

I saw a lot of bedbug cases in my legal aid days. More often than not, it was better to just negotiate a lease termination and move. Of course you should seek state-specific legal advice (try legal aid if you can't afford it) but in general, if you can't stand living somewhere, then stop living there.

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guyingorillasuit (May 10, 2017 - 6:29 pm)

I filed a bedbug case which settled for almost $40k. Another attorney I know got a six figure verdict on a bedbug case in SF. These are potentially valuable, depending on the jurisdiction.

The issue is notice - if you can document that your landlord was aware of the problem, and did nothing, you are in good shape. You need copies of letters and email, and evidence that you complained to the landlord over and over again, and asked him to take action and remediate.

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nhire (May 10, 2017 - 6:59 pm)

Thing is, the contract is spoken.
We don't have any kind of contract on paper.
All the landlord did was come over every now and then (2 weeks - 2 months) to take the rent and fix some issues like not working hoover, or some issue with washing machine.
He was informed about bed bugs every single time he came over, and even bought a new bed which didn't help.
We also got some fumers and about 60 or 80% of the cost was deducted from our rent, there wasnt that much money involved in that one tho.

We do have letters that come to this address from our banks and such, I even have this address on my School application and diploma.

How would the case look in this situation?

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anonattempt (May 10, 2017 - 7:49 pm)

Mattresses were already there

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....Yuk

Was this originally supposed to be a short term stay?

And this is weird. Isn't bedbugs like a hotel issue? And the landlord replaced the mattress and this kept up? Was the replacement mattress new?

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nhire (May 10, 2017 - 8:11 pm)

"Mattresses were already there" is that not how you write it?
I'm living in UK for 6 years and I'm from a different country, so I may mess up sometimes, but I think It's not that bad?

And no, we could stay for as long as it was possible and as long as we needed.

I'm not sure if it's a hotel issue, about 3 years ago I heard from my sister that her friend's house got attacked by them as well.

Also, somebody did mention to me, that recently there was more issues with bedbugs here in london, or rather, these issues became more frequent.

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anonattempt (May 10, 2017 - 8:26 pm)

I mean moving in somewhere with a furnished bed isn't crazy I guess. Was just my gut reaction.

Maybe this website can help: http://www.bedbugs.org/bed-covers

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guyingorillasuit (May 10, 2017 - 8:45 pm)

Once bedbugs are found, the only way to get rid of them is through heat treatment. You have to hire a pest professional, move all your stuff out, and come back in a couple days.

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nyclawyer (May 10, 2017 - 11:23 pm)

When you move out of that place, you should do truck fumigation (Vikane gas) for all the stuff you want to keep. This really works. Hire a company like Bed Bug Fumigation Specialist to do it.

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guyingorillasuit (May 10, 2017 - 11:27 pm)

That is an excellent idea. Another idea is to toss everything and start over. This is especially true for furniture. You can fumigate clothes with a good likelihood of success. Fumigating furniture is a toss-up.

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superttthero (May 10, 2017 - 9:06 pm)

nhire, can I ask, have you spoken to an attorney over there? I think the consensus from this board of mostly American lawyers is the set of facts you have presented would make for a very weak case in the United States (I agree), but things could be totally different over there.

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whipster (May 11, 2017 - 6:26 am)

"In a house rented to several people"...any one of whom could have gone on holiday, picked up bedbugs from a hotel or anywhere else, and brought them back in.

Then you stayed for years afterward, and now you are looking for a paycheck. Good luck with that.

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unlearnedhand (May 11, 2017 - 7:06 am)

Have you considered negotiating with the bedbugs? Maybe discovering what their underlying concerns are?

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