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http://www.law.com/sites/almstaff/2 017/04/18/will-law-school 6figuremistake04/19/17
By limiting foreign students ability to come here to study l yankeebirdie04/19/17
No, I didn't say I support (or oppose) Trump's policies. Non 6figuremistake04/19/17
I think you missed the entire point of OP's post in an effor mrtor04/19/17
Yes, exactly this. Screw them unless they go back home after triplesix04/19/17
As someone who works with foreign LLMs on regular basis, thi triplesix04/19/17
It is extremely frustrating. It begs the question that if a alphadog1505/02/17
@triplesix - That sounds shockingly similar to the H1B visa iamerror05/02/17
6figuremistake (Apr 19, 2017 - 10:14 am)

http://www.law.com/sites/almstaff/2017/04/18/will-law-schools-ll-m-programs-suffer-from-trumps-america-first-stance/

"LL.M faculty are worried that those lucrative programs could lose their luster should the United States gain a reputation as unwelcoming to foreigners, and they say some LL.M applicants are grappling with whether they want to come to such a place."

Looks like the LLM programs rely heavily on foreign students to stay afloat. Whatever you think about Trump or his immigration policies, it would be nice if they help knock another leg out from underneath the LS scam.

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yankeebirdie (Apr 19, 2017 - 10:57 am)

By limiting foreign students ability to come here to study law and get a degree ? You're an idiot.

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6figuremistake (Apr 19, 2017 - 11:16 am)

No, I didn't say I support (or oppose) Trump's policies. Nonetheless, the LLM program is a cash cow for the law schools. It helps paper over the losses the schools are experiencing on the JD side of their business. Should the LLM money dry up, it will put further financial pressure on the schools, which will hasten their closures. If that is an unattended effect of Trump's policy, that is good news - whether you endorse the underlying policy or not.

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mrtor (Apr 19, 2017 - 11:23 am)

I think you missed the entire point of OP's post in an effort to insult someone this morning. Congrats.

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triplesix (Apr 19, 2017 - 12:15 pm)

Yes, exactly this. Screw them unless they go back home after their studies which most have no intention of doing. They come here to stay and LLM is a cheap way of getting a stab at it. No body cares about crappy US LLM degrees outside of US. WOW SHOCKER!

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triplesix (Apr 19, 2017 - 12:13 pm)

As someone who works with foreign LLMs on regular basis, this is very much welcome development if it is indeed true. They aint got them loans and they take some of the better legal jobs available due to their language abilites and/or family connections back home.

They also have this smug attitude about how American JDs are idiots with loans while they are so smart. Ironically most of them can't write English worth of crap and have zero understanding of American legal concepts. But employers love them bc they don't ask too many questions and will do what their told since their not aware of rules of professional conduct or just plain don't give a fook.

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alphadog15 (May 2, 2017 - 8:33 am)

It is extremely frustrating. It begs the question that if a 1 year LLM is enough to take a bar exam (hi, New York!), then why in the world do we need a 3 years in law school for a JD?

I've worked with a lot of LLM lawyers, and its a bit of mixed bag. Some of them indeed are great lawyers, but there are plenty who's English skills leave much to be desired and have very little understanding of a wide array of US law.

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iamerror (May 2, 2017 - 2:42 am)

@triplesix - That sounds shockingly similar to the H1B visa scam going on in the tech sector now.

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