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MBE Scores Reach a New Low

http://excessofdemocracy.com/blog/2 017/4/february-2017-mbe-b 6figuremistake04/14/17
Even worse, law schools may be admitting more students with lazlo04/14/17
43 percent of applicants in NC had a DWI!? Wow that is crazy 3lol04/14/17
One of my friends is an adjunct prof at FIU and she has show bucwild04/14/17
So will employers start hiring the backlog of all those smar triplesix04/14/17
They won't because the crème of the new crop of idiots is st ejs201704/14/17
No reason to do it. Even with the abysmal MBE scores, there thirdtierlaw04/14/17
you guys are a bunch of stuck up clowns... i have a number o htt4life04/14/17
And I got friends who were wealthy and some even won a lotte triplesix04/14/17
cool story htt4life04/14/17
Yours is pretty good too dear. triplesix04/14/17
None of them, however, failed to pass the bar exam (if they 6figuremistake04/14/17
Survivorship bias is the logical error of concentrating on t flharfh04/14/17
6figuremistake (Apr 14, 2017 - 9:26 am)

http://excessofdemocracy.com/blog/2017/4/february-2017-mbe-bar-scores-collapse-to-all-time-record-low-in-test-history

As the scam has been exposed, the brain drain has had a palpable impact on even the "good" schools. How bad is it at the bottom tier schools? I mean are they at the point yet where they enroll students who struggle to form complete sentences and tie their own shoes - let alone have the aptitude to pass the bar exam?

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lazlo (Apr 14, 2017 - 10:32 am)

Even worse, law schools may be admitting more students with character issues!

From the same blog:

http://excessofdemocracy.com/blog/2017/3/law-schools-appear-to-be-admitting-more-students-with-character-and-fitness-issues

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3lol (Apr 14, 2017 - 12:42 pm)

43 percent of applicants in NC had a DWI!? Wow that is crazy

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bucwild (Apr 14, 2017 - 10:33 am)

One of my friends is an adjunct prof at FIU and she has shown me some of the exam answers she must grade. Many of these students can't even form complete sentences.

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triplesix (Apr 14, 2017 - 9:59 am)

So will employers start hiring the backlog of all those smart people instead of the new crop of idiots? To ask the question...

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ejs2017 (Apr 14, 2017 - 10:04 am)

They won't because the crème of the new crop of idiots is still cheaper than the backlog.

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thirdtierlaw (Apr 14, 2017 - 10:53 am)

No reason to do it. Even with the abysmal MBE scores, there are still enough attorneys from top schools to fill the positions. Unless there is exponential growth in the legal market and half these law schools go under, those in the backlog will forever be out of luck.

Not to mention, many of the tasks new associates handle in the first couple years of practice do not require genius level legal work.

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htt4life (Apr 14, 2017 - 11:05 am)

you guys are a bunch of stuck up clowns... i have a number of friends that went to tier 3-4 law schools that have great jobs...many of them even hold government jobs.

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triplesix (Apr 14, 2017 - 11:17 am)

And I got friends who were wealthy and some even won a lottery!

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htt4life (Apr 14, 2017 - 11:22 am)

cool story

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triplesix (Apr 14, 2017 - 11:32 am)

Yours is pretty good too dear.

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6figuremistake (Apr 14, 2017 - 11:27 am)

None of them, however, failed to pass the bar exam (if they are practicing attorneys). As student profiles have collapsed, so too has the bar passage rates. This is particularly pronounced at the lower tier schools - Arizona Summit and Florida Coastal boast 25% bar passage rates!

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flharfh (Apr 14, 2017 - 12:35 pm)

Survivorship bias is the logical error of concentrating on the people or things that "survived" some process and inadvertently overlooking those that did not because of their lack of visibility.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship_bias

At the worst performing law schools, half or fewer students pass the bar exam and only around a third find full time long term jobs as attorneys after graduation. The fact that there are scattered success stories means little. Washouts and failures tend not to advertise that fact.

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