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Received a telemarketing call from a "credit repair" law firm (???)

Okay, So even though it's illegal, telemarketing calls come caj11104/12/17
If you file a bar complaint you better hope you didn't give vohod04/12/17
I have never done business with any company in and don't kno caj11104/12/17
Dispute everything on it, see what sticks vohod04/12/17
You would need a law firm to do that? Anyway, ultimately caj11104/12/17
Law firms cannot solicit for paid work. Forget about the FTC flo2017bartkr04/22/17
Firms can solicit for paid work. It's done all the time. T jeffm04/22/17
Did they use an autodialer or robocall? Sounds like a good T 2breedbares04/22/17
It was a robocall alright. While I would love to cash in on caj11104/22/17
I've always filed in the state of the recipient of the calls 2breedbares04/22/17
Who the heck even pays a credit repair law firm? I assuming anonattempt04/22/17
Its scammy: "stop paying your bills, pay us instead and we w vohod04/22/17
Oof, yeah that sounds super scammy. anonattempt04/22/17
It is scammy for sure. If you don't pay your bills or pay t caj11104/22/17
It adds credibility for proles. They "hired" a law firm to d vohod04/22/17
caj111 (Apr 12, 2017 - 9:07 pm)

Okay,
So even though it's illegal, telemarketing calls come to my cell phone all the time. Today I received a call from some place hawking the services of a law firm in Utah that does credit repair. We all know that making something illegal is one thing, while enforcement is another. But you would think a law firm would know better than to break telemarketing laws.

Anyway, I know that reporting these illegal calls to the FTC and FCC is a waste of time, but would it cause any real pain for the law firm if I reported this illegal activity to the Utah Bar? I am so sick of these telemarketing calls, blocking the numbers doesn't seem to slow things down, and this may be the one time I can strike back.

Why anyone would use a law firm to repair their credit report is beyond me but that's another story.

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vohod (Apr 12, 2017 - 9:16 pm)

If you file a bar complaint you better hope you didn't give a blanket auth to some related company or you will look foolish.


Law firm branding on debt relief companies create a stronger dissuasion for less sophisticated collections agencies to call a or write back to the debt relief company out of fear or lawsuit and being unable to really handle Opp Counsel.

Same as the old collections law firm model: 1-2 attorneys who have 75 collectors on the payroll, but make outstanding phone dollars due to saying the account is at a law firm--when 95% of the files will never be sued.

Tldr: you likely have a single attorney or two as "lawyers" at this place and legions of nonatty staff making outbounds... it ain't like an associate attorney is dialing you between his family law and property dispute hearings...

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caj111 (Apr 12, 2017 - 9:21 pm)

I have never done business with any company in and don't know anybody in Utah, much less this law firm.

I understanding why you would have law firm branding for a debt relief company, but I don't even see how a law firm can fix your credit reports.

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vohod (Apr 12, 2017 - 9:23 pm)

Dispute everything on it, see what sticks

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caj111 (Apr 12, 2017 - 9:58 pm)

You would need a law firm to do that?

Anyway, ultimately getting back to the gist of the question, will a bar complaint even do anything? Can I even file a bar complaint when I've never even used this law firm in the first place?

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flo2017bartkr (Apr 22, 2017 - 8:38 am)

Law firms cannot solicit for paid work. Forget about the FTC or FCC; the bar is the entity with the interest and inclination to bite. Attorney advertising is one of their pet peeves. A bar complaint would go somewhere, unless they were calling you back...?

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jeffm (Apr 22, 2017 - 2:05 pm)

Firms can solicit for paid work. It's done all the time. There are certain prohibited forms of solicitation. Cold calling is allowed, except under certain conditions.

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2breedbares (Apr 22, 2017 - 10:45 am)

Did they use an autodialer or robocall? Sounds like a good TCPA complaint. $500-$1500 per call if you win, and plaintiff can win on MSJ pretty easily if no consent. Plus if you're on the DNC, you arguably have another cause of action.

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caj111 (Apr 22, 2017 - 5:20 pm)

It was a robocall alright. While I would love to cash in on this, if I had the time for it, but wouldn't I have to file the case in Utah, and wouldn't they just blow it off because they know I wouldn't travel to Utah to show up in court?

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2breedbares (Apr 22, 2017 - 6:00 pm)

I've always filed in the state of the recipient of the calls. I've only been hit with a jurisdictional motion once and won it. That being said, a Utah state law firm is a different animal. Do they have clients in your home state or claim to? Could be enough for minimum contacts.

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anonattempt (Apr 22, 2017 - 3:29 pm)

Who the heck even pays a credit repair law firm? I assuming someone who would need such a service doesn't have money lying around to pay for such a service...

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vohod (Apr 22, 2017 - 4:11 pm)

Its scammy: "stop paying your bills, pay us instead and we will deal with it." That is the jist of how they operate. They make a lot of money too because people are stupid.

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anonattempt (Apr 22, 2017 - 4:43 pm)

Oof, yeah that sounds super scammy.

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caj111 (Apr 22, 2017 - 5:28 pm)

It is scammy for sure. If you don't pay your bills or pay them really late, your credit report is what it is and there's not much you can do until you get caught up. If your credit report contains inaccurate information (as mine often does because I have a common name), then you can simply dispute with the credit bureaus online in a matter of minutes. Unfortunately most people are ignorant of both of these facts and these "credit repair" firms take advantage of this ignorance and are everywhere, either doing absolutely nothing or doing something you could do yourself very easily. I just hadn't heard of a law firm doing it before.

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vohod (Apr 22, 2017 - 6:40 pm)

It adds credibility for proles. They "hired" a law firm to dispute their debts, instead of a credit consulting company.

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