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Clinic or Concentration

I am a rising 3L. I am thinking of doing a concentration or mera8804/11/17
I would think realistically in what you might want to "demon 3lol04/11/17
this is good advice. Clinics allegedly give you hands on ex sjlawyer04/11/17
Transactional clinic easily. I feel that learning transactio lolwutjobs04/11/17
do you have a job lined up? If so, do whichever is most on- dingbat04/11/17
I am going to find out this summer during my summer internsh mera8804/11/17
whoops, I misinterpreted that you were a 3L. Take the clini dingbat04/11/17
By and large I agree that concentrations are crap, but I kno 3lol04/11/17
Clinic. Concentrations are lipstick on a pig. A clinic i isthisit04/11/17
What is the time requirement for the clinics? No way could I elle30104/11/17
for the transaction clinic, it is a 6 credit course so the t mera8804/11/17
Yes but I have a tax LLM. Not sure that tax clinic alone wou elle30104/11/17
I would vote you take the clinic positions. Concentrations r thirdtierlaw04/11/17
If any desire to be a transactional lawyer, do the transacti mountainhawk1104/11/17
This is so incredibly true. The hardest part of transacti dingbat04/11/17
I would just do the transactional clinic. The appellate liti onehell04/11/17
Thanks everyone! mera8804/11/17
mera88 (Apr 11, 2017 - 4:04 pm)

I am a rising 3L. I am thinking of doing a concentration or two clinics. I want to do a compliance concentration, but I also want to do a transactional clinic at my school and also a tax clinic. I cannot do all three at the same time. Is a concentration better or clinics better? In my transactional clinic, we do some compliance work.

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3lol (Apr 11, 2017 - 4:08 pm)

I would think realistically in what you might want to "demonstrate interest" in and take it from there. It may not make a difference at all, but it couldn't hurt.

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sjlawyer (Apr 11, 2017 - 4:13 pm)

this is good advice. Clinics allegedly give you hands on experience, but it's so limited I'm not sure it matters. In the end, 3lol is correct at any of these things' value, but you might as well. This might help you get a job next year.

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lolwutjobs (Apr 11, 2017 - 4:18 pm)

Transactional clinic easily. I feel that learning transactional work takes much more hands on experience

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dingbat (Apr 11, 2017 - 4:20 pm)

do you have a job lined up? If so, do whichever is most on-point. If not, take a clinic - you might actually learn something.
Concentrations are bullsht

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mera88 (Apr 11, 2017 - 4:26 pm)

I am going to find out this summer during my summer internship if they will offer me a job for after graduation.

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dingbat (Apr 11, 2017 - 5:12 pm)

whoops, I misinterpreted that you were a 3L.
Take the clinic

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3lol (Apr 11, 2017 - 5:37 pm)

By and large I agree that concentrations are crap, but I know a girl who concentrated hard in health law (lots of "demonstrated interest" on her part) and ended up getting a job at a largish firm in the field. Of course, it didn't hurt that she was top 5%.

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isthisit (Apr 11, 2017 - 4:26 pm)

Clinic.

Concentrations are lipstick on a pig. A clinic is more like a cute hat on a pig. Both are useless to a certain extent but you get more value from the hat.

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elle301 (Apr 11, 2017 - 4:27 pm)

What is the time requirement for the clinics? No way could I have done two at the same time. I did tax clinic and learned a lot, but it would have been 10000% useless outside of this limited field.

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mera88 (Apr 11, 2017 - 4:31 pm)

for the transaction clinic, it is a 6 credit course so the time requirement is 26 hours. For the tax clinic, the time requirement is 10-15 hours because it is a three-credit course. Were you able to find a job in the legal tax field with the clinic? Do you think the tax clinic benefits in applying to the big four accounting firms for a legal related tax job?

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elle301 (Apr 11, 2017 - 5:00 pm)

Yes but I have a tax LLM. Not sure that tax clinic alone would help with the big 4 unless you were also a cpa.

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thirdtierlaw (Apr 11, 2017 - 4:42 pm)

I would vote you take the clinic positions. Concentrations really will not do much for you. Maybe it'll give you a leg up during in interview if you can "talk the talk," but hands-on experience in a clinic will allow you to do the same. This is especially true if you get no-offered wherever you summer. Midlaw/small law will want someone who can hit the ground running. Midlaw may have some training baked in, but it is nothing like biglaw that have a system down. If you can come in showing that you at least understand the basics of transactional work, it may set you apart.

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mountainhawk11 (Apr 11, 2017 - 5:03 pm)

If any desire to be a transactional lawyer, do the transactional clinic and don't look back. Steep learning curve for this type of work (especially at the higher levels), and most of what you learn in law school is entirely useless. Experience is realistically the only way to learn the ropes.

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dingbat (Apr 11, 2017 - 5:17 pm)

This is so incredibly true.

The hardest part of transactional is learning to juggle things properly, especially when the pressure is turned up. Before you got that down, you're useless. After, it's a matter of experience to recognize the particular issues of a transaction and how to deal with them - a lot of sh*t you need to be shown (or have it blow up) before you even know it's a possible issue.

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onehell (Apr 11, 2017 - 6:56 pm)

I would just do the transactional clinic. The appellate litigation focus of law school is one of its biggest holes and this might give you at least some exposure to an area that is otherwise taught exclusively to big firm associates. I wouldn't do a concentration because no one cares about those.

Also, I wouldn't do two clinics simultaneously. You don't want your 3L year to be too hard. If you already have a job lined up you'll want to take it easy, and if you don't have a job lined up you'll want lots of free time to run your resume bombing operation. Either way, you don't want a 3L year that is too draining.

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mera88 (Apr 11, 2017 - 7:52 pm)

Thanks everyone!

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