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"Fringe Benefits" - How much value would these have to you?

Firstly, I'm genuinely curious if these "benefits" have any cacrimdefense04/10/17
1. I'm not sure of price, but a good working environment for qdllc04/19/17
All 5 are worth at least 40k vohod04/10/17
I had all of those except 3 at my last firm. I still left b 2breedbares04/10/17
1, 4, and 5 are worth nothing to me. I already have friends, bucwild04/11/17
#3 sounds like a curiously very specific "fringe" benefit lolwutjobs04/11/17
1 and 2 are very valuable. I spend too much time at work. I' therover04/11/17
All seem good except for #3. That can turn into a trainwreck thirdtierlaw04/11/17
the only ones that matter are #1 and #2. Working with peopl dingbat04/11/17
You can't evaluate 3 and 5 without being there first, so it' sjlawyer04/11/17
These things are extremely valuable. Hard to place an exact greenhorn04/11/17
#1 - $10k. This is huge and makes your life immensely happie aspiretoretire04/18/17
6 - a job that facilitates poasting at work 3lol04/18/17
1, 2, 4, 5 in order because many workplaces do not provide s wutwutwut04/18/17
All with the exception of 3 are valuable and is important to prodigy04/18/17
Ah - the benefits of homoness. No sh!tting where you work, e adamb04/19/17
This seems like a huge no-brainer. All are of great value, jd4hire04/19/17
cacrimdefense (Apr 10, 2017 - 11:19 pm)

Firstly, I'm genuinely curious if these "benefits" have any value to some of the folks here, and secondly, no, this is not a flame or joke post. Would you consider any of these things to be of value at the firm where you work? And if so, how much?

1. Working w/ a collection of lawyers you like a bit, and some you even like a lot (friendship, camaraderie, lack of office politics BS, etc.).

2. The presence of a colleague/lawyer who has more experience (than you) in your area of practice, who provides quality opinions, analysis and advice when requested. A person w/ whom there is no rivalry, law firm competition, or jockeying for position going on.

3. A "friends w/ benefits" relationship w/ a somewhat attractive and considerably younger, married colleague (not a subordinate or someone whose standing/advancement/career at the firm you can impact one iota).

4. A LARGE variety of quality places to eat lunch near your firm. Lots of different ethnic food offerings, and a wide array of price ranges.

5. The ability to sleep unnoticed, in your office, for a period of 20 to 40 minutes all or most days.

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qdllc (Apr 19, 2017 - 9:36 am)

1. I'm not sure of price, but a good working environment for less pay is better than a hostile one for more pay.

2. Mentors have value, but not something I'd put a huge incentive on compared to #1.

3. Anyone who cheats on their spouse can't be trusted to not knife you in the back at some point in the future.

4. A nice option, but frequent eating out is (one of the) bane(s) of a lawyer's health and well-being....wow...this could apply to #3 above. (lol)

5. This is a big value to me. I get migraines, and often, if I feel bad, a simple 20-30 minute nap will fix the problem. If not, I have no choice but to call it a day. Not having the option means I'm going to lose more productive time in the long run.

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vohod (Apr 10, 2017 - 11:33 pm)

All 5 are worth at least 40k

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2breedbares (Apr 10, 2017 - 11:46 pm)

I had all of those except 3 at my last firm. I still left because of the the overall toxic environment and crappy cases (i.e. there was one good colleague/mentor and great friends, but the vast majority of the firm, including supervisors, were terrible). The firm also gave us a food allowance and the best Christmas parties I've ever heard of. Alas, the bad outweighed the good. I would say, depending on other factors, those are worth maybe $15,000 total.

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bucwild (Apr 11, 2017 - 4:47 am)

1, 4, and 5 are worth nothing to me. I already have friends, I bring lunch every day, and I don't need nap time.

3 is marginally useful because she is only "somewhat attractive".

2 is very valuable.

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lolwutjobs (Apr 11, 2017 - 7:21 am)

#3 sounds like a curiously very specific "fringe" benefit

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therover (Apr 11, 2017 - 8:15 am)

1 and 2 are very valuable. I spend too much time at work. I'd rather enjoy and learn from those around me.

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thirdtierlaw (Apr 11, 2017 - 8:49 am)

All seem good except for #3. That can turn into a trainwreck really quickly. She starts talking about leaving her husband for you, her husband finds out and confronts you at work, etc.

1 and 2 really are a great benefit. You'll become a much better attorney quicker and you'll be dealing with one less area of stress in your life that many attorneys struggle with. It's hard to put a value on that, but it's definitely worth quite a bit.

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dingbat (Apr 11, 2017 - 8:52 am)

the only ones that matter are #1 and #2. Working with people you like is important - you spend too many hours at work to be completely miserable. Likewise, a strong mentor will make you a better attorney, will be a source of inspiration and education, and (if s/he isn't an ass) will brighten your day with their presence

#3 - seriously? Don't sh*t where you eat. Have a fling on the side, find a whore if need be, but not at the office

#4 - what is lunch?

#5 - I'd rather get my work done quicker and sleep at home. Though, it is nice to take the occasional break to refresh or recharge or just clear the mind. For me, that's what JDU is for

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sjlawyer (Apr 11, 2017 - 9:08 am)

You can't evaluate 3 and 5 without being there first, so it's a non-issue. As a younger pup, I might have had more interest in 3.

1 and 2 have value and especially 2.

4 I could take or leave - I pack my lunch generally.

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greenhorn (Apr 11, 2017 - 9:18 am)

These things are extremely valuable. Hard to place an exact number on them, but overall, I'd definitely say these are the kinds of things that make you enjoy going to work.

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aspiretoretire (Apr 18, 2017 - 6:26 pm)

#1 - $10k. This is huge and makes your life immensely happier
#2 - $4k. Nice, but I can find these relationships even if not easily handed to me.
#3 - $500 (but only if shes REAL hot). I mean, I wouldn't complain, but I can get chicks at bars fairly easily.
#4 - 0. Bars and happy hours, OTOH, would have a higher enjoyment value to me.
#5 - $100. Nice, but not a big deal

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3lol (Apr 18, 2017 - 9:14 pm)

6 - a job that facilitates poasting at work

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wutwutwut (Apr 18, 2017 - 10:34 pm)

1, 2, 4, 5 in order because many workplaces do not provide such.

3 is so fraught with red flags that only an F-n idjit would consider partaking.

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prodigy (Apr 18, 2017 - 11:32 pm)

All with the exception of 3 are valuable and is important to have if they can be fostered. Stay away from 3, it's nice to lust after the fit blokes, it's a look, flirt but don't touch situation.

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adamb (Apr 19, 2017 - 7:31 am)

Ah - the benefits of homoness. No sh!tting where you work, except sometimes, and it is not complicated unless he be cra-cra.

Normally, we can find the nearest dude on grindr during lunch for a beej

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jd4hire (Apr 19, 2017 - 9:05 am)

This seems like a huge no-brainer. All are of great value, except 3, IMO. While I love a good friends with benefits, as my father told me, never dip your pen in company ink. While it may seem good at the outset, there will never be a good ending to it.

1. Is great and can really change your outlook on a day. Approximately 5,000 - 7,500.
2. Good mentors are crucial and can teach you a lot. I'm very thankful for the mentors I've had thus far. 5,000.
3. Bad idea.
4. I bring lunch everyday, but for days that I forget or need to grab lunch with a colleague, this is very nice. 2,500.
5. Least valuable IMO. While nice, I can't imagine napping for 20-40 minutes at work. Just not in my DNA. If you enjoy naps, I imagine this will be nice though.

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