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Chemerinsky Attempting to Flee UC Irvine Vanity Project

The law school at U.C. Berkeley is looking for a new dean, a passportfan304/05/17
Honestly, UC Irvine has been pretty successful since its ope 2breedbares04/05/17
Rankings mean nothing. UC Irvine is a Potemkin village. T trickydick04/05/17
students have been having to pay sticker at Irvine for years dingbat04/05/17
Let's see where they are in a decade. trickydick04/05/17
https://www.lstreports.com/state/CA / UC Irving grads ar imoothereforeim04/05/17
49k for in-state tuition at a public law school is patently 3lol04/05/17
I hope Duke doesn't take him back. I want that cack at UNC a triplesix04/05/17
Cut Chemerinsky loose. I'd love to see him (and his wife) bo jorgedeclaro04/06/17
I struggled to keep awake listening to that man's bar exam p youngbuck04/06/17
yeah, but that conlaw supplement... sjlawyer04/06/17
"would rather stick forks in my eyes than listen to him for inho2solo04/08/17
If you can find video and get it on Youtube, that'd be great acerimmer04/08/17
I love Eugene's writing and perspective, but his accent is i jorgedeclaro04/11/17
I was amazed that he stood in front of the lectern and talke vohod04/08/17
I could not stand his BarBri lectures. I still remember h trijocker04/10/17
in fairness, I fell in love with Paula Franzese during those youngbuck04/11/17
Like many other snowflake academics, Chemerinsky seemingly f parlance04/08/17
Entitlement turns even smart people into pretentious fops. C adamb04/10/17
Adamb - I was under the impression you were out on your own? notiers04/11/17
I try to stay vague about exact city location as dumb as tha adamb04/12/17

passportfan3 (Apr 5, 2017 - 1:51 pm)

The law school at U.C. Berkeley is looking for a new dean, and the shortlist announced this week includes Edwin Chemerinsky.

JDU readers will remember Prof. Chemerinsky as the founder of the U.C. Irvine law school, the absolutely needless addition to California's glutted legal market. Tuition at UCI Law runs $49K per year for in-state residents, and you get to live in famously affordable Orange County, so it's an all-around bargain.

Incredibly, Chemerinsky and his ego may be the best choice, because he at least has experience consulting with real lawyers in real cases. The other two finalists are a Chicana studies/sociology lady from UCLA and a feminist legal scholar from Northwestern.

Shortlist: http://leiterlawschool.typepad.com/leiter/2017/03/next-dean-at-berkeley.html

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2breedbares (Apr 5, 2017 - 2:54 pm)

Honestly, UC Irvine has been pretty successful since its opening. I thought it'd fail. But it has actually largely displaced other UC law schools in the rankings.

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trickydick (Apr 5, 2017 - 7:41 pm)

Rankings mean nothing. UC Irvine is a Potemkin village.

They gamed their rank by offering students with high LSATs and GPAs free rides. The first few classes that enrolled didn't pay a dime. Of course to a guy who is looking at paying full price for UCLA, USC, or Berkeley, it makes sense to take the free ride rather than go $150,000 in debt.

But once people have to start paying as much to go to UC Irvine as to go to a credible school, UC Irvine will become just another one of Orange County's dung heap law schools.

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dingbat (Apr 5, 2017 - 8:49 pm)

students have been having to pay sticker at Irvine for years already.

Yes, the first year got a free ride. Second year's a lot less. today, it's no worse than other schools of similar ranking (in terms of full ride / partial scholarship)

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trickydick (Apr 5, 2017 - 9:28 pm)

Let's see where they are in a decade.

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imoothereforeim (Apr 5, 2017 - 10:01 pm)

https://www.lstreports.com/state/CA/


UC Irving grads are doing about as well as Cal Davis and Loyola. Top school it's not.

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3lol (Apr 5, 2017 - 4:47 pm)

49k for in-state tuition at a public law school is patently absurd and offensive.

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triplesix (Apr 5, 2017 - 7:11 pm)

I hope Duke doesn't take him back. I want that cack at UNC ahahaha.

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jorgedeclaro (Apr 6, 2017 - 8:58 am)

Cut Chemerinsky loose. I'd love to see him (and his wife) booted out of a academia and survive in the real world. He is the king of entititled boomers who is convinced that the world loves it when he tells everyone how great he is.

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youngbuck (Apr 6, 2017 - 10:20 am)

I struggled to keep awake listening to that man's bar exam prep video - would rather stick forks in my eyes than listen to him for another 5 minutes.

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sjlawyer (Apr 6, 2017 - 11:04 am)

yeah, but that conlaw supplement...

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inho2solo (Apr 8, 2017 - 3:28 pm)

"would rather stick forks in my eyes than listen to him for another 5 minutes"

I've seen/heard him speak at several gatherings and his voice, and even more, his manner of speaking drive me up the wall.

The most recent was to be a compendium of free speech views by 1st Amendment "experts" who ran the gamut from those profs holding out that one who fails to use a person's desired pronoun should be punished under federal hate speech laws (on the one end) to Dean C somewhere left of middle to Eugene Volokh (on the other) who shredded all the insanity.

Prof Volokh's got a looping manner of speaking that's kind of hard to follow, too, but at least he's not insane.

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acerimmer (Apr 8, 2017 - 10:47 pm)

If you can find video and get it on Youtube, that'd be great....

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jorgedeclaro (Apr 11, 2017 - 3:36 pm)

I love Eugene's writing and perspective, but his accent is incredibly hard to follow.

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vohod (Apr 8, 2017 - 7:15 pm)

I was amazed that he stood in front of the lectern and talked for what, 3 hours, without notes. It was boring at time but he knows a lot about the topic.

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trijocker (Apr 10, 2017 - 6:01 pm)

I could not stand his BarBri lectures.

I still remember his cackling voice LITTLE A Abortion rights Roe v Wade or the dumb, dumb jokes and stories about his children. He was about as irritating as the New Jersey Real property lady Paula who sang songs in a voice like Fran Drescher of the Nanny.

Good luck to him as the new dean of CAL>

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youngbuck (Apr 11, 2017 - 12:48 pm)

in fairness, I fell in love with Paula Franzese during those lectures - she became a beacon of light and hope to me in my dark world of bar prep, I found myself day-dreaming the lectures away as I imagined what our children would look like, or how her smile could turn even the darkest of times into something joyful, even giddy...she was Beatrice to my Dante, representation of all that was beautiful and good in the world, what a blessed lady she was indeed.

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parlance (Apr 8, 2017 - 10:30 pm)

Like many other snowflake academics, Chemerinsky seemingly finds himself embattled in coping with a changing legal world. Staying at the same plum job for eternity is no longer a guarantee for people like him.

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adamb (Apr 10, 2017 - 6:54 pm)

Entitlement turns even smart people into pretentious fops. Cherminsky is a common type of boomer lawyer.

I had a boomer senior homicide ADA literally commandeer me last week in order to relate a series of unconnected war stories about his 30 year career in the DAs office. It went on and on. I did my best to gently stroke his ego with minimal shows of interest while trying to get back to my busy schedule...which he seemed unconcerned with...

I think that he thought that I would be impressed? It was the perfect stereotype of the entitled white boomer professional who thinks that he is interesting, intelligent, and at the top of his "field" just because his age entitles him to some type of seniority. He would not let me get a word in edgewise even after he monologued for long stretches. He thought that I was some K-JD misdemeanor attorney because I am new (as he was visibly surprised to here, finally, how many felony jury trials I'd done...he obviously thought that I was like 27 years old and green).

In short: he had no interest in anything about me, even my name, but he assumed that I would find him fascinating and funny.

This boomer stereotype finally ended with the classic situation: he stood to conference an old murder case in the part that I was covering. He made dumb excuses about why he was not ready (and it was obvious that he'd stalled his case for so long that he'd lost some key witness or evidence). He paced around like he was on trial and acted cocky. Even the white boomer judge was visibly irritated that this ADA has kept a defendant in jail for four years without trying the case, probably because he assumes that the guy eventually will cop to a Man 1 plea...which is probably how he convinces himself that he has a high "win" rate. He obviously thought highly of his "boot-straps earned-my-place-in-the-world" self-narrative and could not be bothered with the existence of others. People like him make me glad that I can pass as hetero because he made me very uncomfortable, as he is a good old boys club type (well, the nyc version).

I am glad that this generation is rapidly retiring from our office due to push from above and changes to the office, the favored policies, the direction of prosecutorial practice here, and even the changing law.

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notiers (Apr 11, 2017 - 3:53 pm)

Adamb - I was under the impression you were out on your own? Was I wrong or did you just join a DA's office? NYC or LI?

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adamb (Apr 12, 2017 - 9:41 am)

I try to stay vague about exact city location as dumb as that may sound as this point.

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