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Did anyone apply to the latest crop of SSA openings? There w downwardslope03/20/17
I did in case the VA job doesn't work out. Please let me kno kramer71603/20/17
I have already gotten one referral. It seems like they may b downwardslope03/20/17
I just checked, and I got a referral as well. I think the VA kramer71603/20/17
Yes. I would say I applied for about half the locations, downwardslope03/20/17
Did your status change from referred to reviewed? kramer71603/22/17
Yes. I am not sure what that means, but the listing said it downwardslope03/22/17
I don't think it means much. I believe that it just means th kramer71603/23/17
I got a referral for St. Louis today. We will see if that co downwardslope03/23/17
I got the same referral for St. Louis. I think we are good o kramer71603/23/17
Sorry about Lansing. I did not apply to that location. downwardslope03/23/17
Thank you. I appreciate it. I wouldn't have minded Lansing b kramer71603/23/17
That is too bad! I'm just hoping if they interview for these downwardslope03/24/17
I agree. It would be great if Social Security is seeking peo kramer71603/24/17
That is bizarre! I have still only heard from that first Chi downwardslope03/24/17
How can you not get referred? I mean as long as you have 1 y t3success03/25/17
Your guess is as good as mine. If the Social Security Admini kramer71603/27/17
I got another Chicago referral, although I did receive an in downwardslope03/27/17
Congratulations on the Chicago referral, I think I applied t kramer71603/27/17
Anyone get an interview? t3success03/27/17
Not yet. I am hoping to hear from the St. Louis office soon. kramer71603/27/17
There were some postings last year in February and people ha downwardslope03/27/17
How did you apply before? I was on Guam for five years, but kramer71603/27/17
A friend sent me the listing for a new office. I think it wa downwardslope03/27/17
It is possible. Ah well, hope the St. Louis job comes throug kramer71603/27/17
Is there any chance of lateraling to another agency from thi t3success03/28/17
All second hand, so take this for what it's worth. I haven't kramer71603/28/17
I applied to the two Chicago positions. I received an email mch9803/28/17
In my interview years ago the ALJ basically told me the job downwardslope03/28/17
http://www.jdunderground.com/govt/t hread.php?threadId=103909 mch9803/28/17
Thank you kramer71603/28/17
I have gotten a few more referrals today. I wonder if they w downwardslope03/29/17
Nice. What city do you want? t3success03/29/17
I just want to get out of my current job at this point. Sin downwardslope03/29/17
I received another referral as well to go along with a few m kramer71603/29/17
I have a friend who has an acquaintance who applied for seve downwardslope03/29/17
That brings up a question. Do you go to the interviews or do kramer71603/29/17

downwardslope (Mar 20, 2017 - 1:54 pm)

Did anyone apply to the latest crop of SSA openings? There were a variety, primarily in the Midwest, some permanent and some term. I applied to several as my job is the pits right now. I couldn't afford to do the DC ones but think I could make it work in the Midwest.

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kramer716 (Mar 20, 2017 - 1:58 pm)

I did in case the VA job doesn't work out. Please let me know if you hear anything, and I will do the same.

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downwardslope (Mar 20, 2017 - 4:12 pm)

I have already gotten one referral. It seems like they may be aiming to get people in as soon as the freeze is over, so maybe this will be faster for you than the VA. I was worried since some wanted a "2017 bar card" which I don't have, but I had a late 2016 certificate and printout from the bar site dated the day I applied saying I was still in good standing.

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kramer716 (Mar 20, 2017 - 4:28 pm)

I just checked, and I got a referral as well. I think the VA will be faster for me only because I already interviewed, but that assumes they offer me a position after they lift the hiring freeze. I am more than happy to go to X city to work for Social Security, though.

As for the bar card, I think they understand as long as you give them the latest possible one. I could be wrong, and probably shouldn't speak for em, but that is the sense I get.

Was your referral for Chicago?

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downwardslope (Mar 20, 2017 - 4:59 pm)

Yes.

I would say I applied for about half the locations, so we will see what happens.

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kramer716 (Mar 22, 2017 - 3:32 pm)

Did your status change from referred to reviewed?

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downwardslope (Mar 22, 2017 - 6:02 pm)

Yes. I am not sure what that means, but the listing said it may be used for future openings.

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kramer716 (Mar 23, 2017 - 1:42 pm)

I don't think it means much. I believe that it just means that whoever inputs the data on USAJOBS made an error, and they intended to click reviewed instead of referred, so for now, I think we are fine.

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downwardslope (Mar 23, 2017 - 3:08 pm)

I got a referral for St. Louis today. We will see if that comes with a "reviewed" later.

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kramer716 (Mar 23, 2017 - 5:46 pm)

I got the same referral for St. Louis. I think we are good on this one because they gave us a person's name to contact which I take as a good sign. I also received a rejection letter from Lansing. Good luck to you on the St. Louis job.

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downwardslope (Mar 23, 2017 - 6:00 pm)

Sorry about Lansing. I did not apply to that location.

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kramer716 (Mar 23, 2017 - 6:38 pm)

Thank you. I appreciate it. I wouldn't have minded Lansing because I went to law school at MSU, and would have been cool to go back again.

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downwardslope (Mar 24, 2017 - 7:54 am)

That is too bad! I'm just hoping if they interview for these, it will be legitimate. All my federal interviews appear to have been for pre-selects or internal candidates. I interviewed for SSA once and I think only internal candidates were selected there too even though it had many openings. It was in an extremely desirable area and people moved from other offices.

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kramer716 (Mar 24, 2017 - 4:15 pm)

I agree. It would be great if Social Security is seeking people, and not just going through the motions so they can hire in-house.

I received a rejection from the Dayton opening, so this is playing out opposite as to what I expected. I thought the bigger cities would reject me and be interviewed by the smaller cities. I am being turned down by the smaller cities, but at least being referred in St. Louis, and being referred to a day with the Chicago opening. Ah well.

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downwardslope (Mar 24, 2017 - 5:09 pm)

That is bizarre! I have still only heard from that first Chicago one and the St. Louis one. Do you have related experience? I am wondering how they make these determinations.

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t3success (Mar 25, 2017 - 8:59 am)

How can you not get referred? I mean as long as you have 1 year experience and provide the supporting documents called for you get referred. What went wrong?

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kramer716 (Mar 27, 2017 - 3:48 pm)

Your guess is as good as mine. If the Social Security Administration is not referring me for any position, then I would think there is something wrong with my documents, but the fact they are referring me for some positions and not others confuses me. My experience is evident on my resume, so I have no idea.

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downwardslope (Mar 27, 2017 - 1:34 pm)

I got another Chicago referral, although I did receive an ineligible for GS-12 since I have not been an ALJ/referee/hearing officer/similar position before. The criteria for that grade seems very specific.

Did you receive an ineligible for both grades in Dayton/Lansing or just GS-12? I thought GS-11 was just one year general experience?

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kramer716 (Mar 27, 2017 - 3:52 pm)

Congratulations on the Chicago referral, I think I applied to that one as well, and my status is the same, so I assume I didn't get that one.

I received INRs for both Dayton and Lansing. I may look back and see if the same person is the hiring official for both positions. As far as I know, all you need is one-year general experience which I have, so I have no clue what the issue is.

Anyway, I wouldn't complain if the Chicago or St. Louis position comes through, but we shall see. Congratulations again on being referred.

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t3success (Mar 27, 2017 - 2:37 pm)

Anyone get an interview?

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kramer716 (Mar 27, 2017 - 4:02 pm)

Not yet. I am hoping to hear from the St. Louis office soon.

I think there is a thread from either early last year, or 2015 regarding hiring at the Social Security Administration. I am going to go through that and try to figure out a general timeline to see how long it took for them to be interviewed to when they were hired.

I will post a link when I actually sit down and do it, but I found it via Google. I think the search was something like Social security and hiring

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downwardslope (Mar 27, 2017 - 4:19 pm)

There were some postings last year in February and people had start dates in around late April and early May, IIRC. It was a quick process, but they were all in the D.C. area. I interviewed once, but it was not a USAjobs posting. They called a week or two after I applied.

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kramer716 (Mar 27, 2017 - 5:12 pm)

How did you apply before? I was on Guam for five years, but before that, I applied for one of these jobs, and I think it was through Monster. I believe they interviewed me about six days after I sent my materials in, and the job was in Baltimore. Needless to say, I didn't get that position, so I ended up on Guam.

Anyway, thank you for the information. I hope the SSA keep up the trend, and things move quickly. Good luck with your referrals.

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downwardslope (Mar 27, 2017 - 5:38 pm)

A friend sent me the listing for a new office. I think it was posted at her law school, which was local. I am guessing this was around the same timeframe as you applied.

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kramer716 (Mar 27, 2017 - 5:42 pm)

It is possible. Ah well, hope the St. Louis job comes through, or the VA picks me up after the hiring freeze. Good luck with the Chicago position

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t3success (Mar 28, 2017 - 2:57 pm)

Is there any chance of lateraling to another agency from this job? Does the SSA promote Attorney Advisors to ALJs? I'm just curious what the long term prospects, if any, of this job are.

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kramer716 (Mar 28, 2017 - 4:17 pm)

All second hand, so take this for what it's worth. I haven't heard of people lateraling to a different agency. It probably has been done, but just never heard of it happening. I have heard of people working their way up to be ALJs.

My source for that is a person I went to law school with who now works for an office in MI, so it's just based off of one person. I am sure there are other people with more knowledge on here.

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mch98 (Mar 28, 2017 - 5:33 pm)

I applied to the two Chicago positions. I received an email stating that I hadn't provided enough information for one. Then I got a referral to the other one.

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downwardslope (Mar 28, 2017 - 5:34 pm)

In my interview years ago the ALJ basically told me the job was not exciting and people stayed for years. I do not think there is a lot of promotion potential, but this was also in a non-major metro area.

My local contact has been in the office a while and does not plan to leave. I also know people who are contractors in other roles who say it is possible to work up to ALJ positions.

That said I imagine you could lateral based on prior experience. I work in a non dead-end state agency and I would say at least half the people came from the more "dead end" state roles. We take them before people outside the system.

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mch98 (Mar 28, 2017 - 6:02 pm)

http://www.jdunderground.com/govt/thread.php?threadId=103909

(Past thread on Attorney advisor positions for Social Security Administration --SSA)

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kramer716 (Mar 28, 2017 - 6:33 pm)

Thank you

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downwardslope (Mar 29, 2017 - 12:56 pm)

I have gotten a few more referrals today. I wonder if they will coordinate these?

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t3success (Mar 29, 2017 - 1:08 pm)

Nice. What city do you want?

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downwardslope (Mar 29, 2017 - 6:05 pm)

I just want to get out of my current job at this point. Since I do have a percent job in non-fed government (however terrible), I would prefer one of the permanent positions. I know at my current office they prefer not to call people who look like they have stable jobs for term positions, so it may just be crickets on those anyway (if I hear on any at all).

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kramer716 (Mar 29, 2017 - 1:56 pm)

I received another referral as well to go along with a few more rejections. The coordination question is a good one. I wonder if they have a set period to go through everyone's application and then do interviews over, say, a two-week period.

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downwardslope (Mar 29, 2017 - 6:57 pm)

I have a friend who has an acquaintance who applied for several different openings with the same agency a while back. She said it didn't appear that it would be coordinated but the friend got to pick her duty station based on availability. It would make sense to rank order the applicants since I assume most people applied to more than one (especially since Chicago had 3 + Orland Park) and then interview that way to a) ensure that they aren't wasting resources interviewing the same person 17 times and b) ensure that applicants end up with places they're most likely to stay the longest.

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kramer716 (Mar 29, 2017 - 7:37 pm)

That brings up a question. Do you go to the interviews or do they call you? My interview a while back, 2009, they called me for a telephonic.

Anyway, I think all my applications were addressed at this point, I might be missing a decision for the Milwaukee one, so it seems like they want all the resumes reviewed by the end of this month. It would make sense that they start scheduling interviews next week, at least I hope so.

Your logic regarding the interview process makes sense, especially the part about not talking to the same person 17 times.

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