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2 weeks until the February, NY UBE. Bombed Barbri midterm. What to do?

Got a 91/200 on the Barbri midterm 2 weeks ago, which placed newyork867502/07/17
Purchase NY Leansheets and review the entire thing daily and isthisit02/07/17
I did not have a representative mbe score until the final pr trollfeeder02/07/17
If you're using barbri download the app and do the mbe pract thirdtierlaw02/07/17
In my jurisdiction, barbri was able to tell me how frequentl govlaw02/07/17
it's guesswork. these predictions have been spectacularly w dingbat02/08/17
Do a lot of MBE questions. I passed the NY UBE by reviewing wcdtax02/07/17
In the same situation. Did even worse than you on the Barbri goorange88802/08/17
Do every possible MBE question possible. Also, don't let the orange902/08/17
Review your incorrect and correct answers. Is there a patter beat12302/08/17
make sure you also put time into essays. For the past few dingbat02/08/17
I got a 100 on the midterm and 157 (scaled) on the actual Ba barelylegal02/08/17
Would you say the more difficult Barbri questions actually m newyork867502/08/17
Yes, I would. I got through the both MBE sections with plent barelylegal02/08/17
newyork8675 (Feb 7, 2017 - 5:53 pm)

Got a 91/200 on the Barbri midterm 2 weeks ago, which placed me in the lower 11% of test takers. Was very surprised. Went through every single wrong answer and wrote out the rule that tripped me up. Most of the time, much to my chagrin, I ended up getting the "2nd best" answer correct.

Since then, my MBE skills have definitely improved a bit, but I am still not doing great on the Barbri drills (55-60%). I just bought Emmanuels, because I figure doing some real MBE questions may be beneficial. I hope to do around 50 a day until the exam.

As far as the MEE, I am fairly confident that if I know the law, I will be fine with them, as I have done quite well on the Barbri graded ones. Moreover, my school made us do about 6 MPT's last year, which I did well on, so I should be okay with that.

Truthfully, I have only been studying maybe 4-5 hours a day, albeit 7 days a week, since Christmas Eve, and I feel that I haven't done enough. I also have been working part-time at a law office during this time (10-15 hours a week). Too many Facebook posts of February takers describing their 12 hour study sessions is making me feel worried.

Any advice on how to approach the last 2 weeks? I figure I should devote around 80% of my time to the MBE, and really try to improve my practice scores.

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isthisit (Feb 7, 2017 - 6:06 pm)

Purchase NY Leansheets and review the entire thing daily and do 100 to 200 MBE questions a day.

That's the only reason I passed NY. FWIW, I took it pre-UBE.

Also don't use the phrase "much to my chagrin" in public.

Vaya con dios.

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trollfeeder (Feb 7, 2017 - 6:29 pm)

I did not have a representative mbe score until the final practice exam I took a few days before the exam. You should go over every question in that midterm including ones you got right.

12 hour study sessions are a waste of time, there is no reason to gun the bar. I doubted myself before I took the exam, but I studied around as much as you have been. It never hurts to look at additional materials though. Good luck.

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thirdtierlaw (Feb 7, 2017 - 6:43 pm)

If you're using barbri download the app and do the mbe practice questions all day long on all topics. So on your way to the bus, on the bus, before bed, etc.

You have a serious advantage that the UBE essay questions are nearly completely based on the mbe topics.

Don't waste ANY time writing essays. If you are worried outline and move on. Writing essays out is a complete waste of time, regardless of what barbri tells you.

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govlaw (Feb 7, 2017 - 7:38 pm)

In my jurisdiction, barbri was able to tell me how frequently certain types of questions were tested and what types of questions I was getting wrong. I started working on the areas that were most frequently tested, then worked my way down the list. When I spent an hour on the rule against perpetuities and still regularly got the questions wrong, I realized my time was better spent on areas I could quickly master than on an area tested only a couple times per exam.

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dingbat (Feb 8, 2017 - 12:53 pm)

it's guesswork. these predictions have been spectacularly wrong a few times.

The MBE part is well-know, NCBE publishes how often particular topics come up. Essays are a bit stranger - certain broad topics will almost always come up (e.g. Property) but may be hidden in an essay about a different topic. Specific areas are incredibly hard to predict (e.g. Joint Tenancy), and so the predictions are always vague there. But then, it's an essay, you can, and should, throw in everything. Question may have a criminal component? throw in mens rea. Throw in a possible tort while you're at it. You don't lose points for going over the top

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wcdtax (Feb 7, 2017 - 8:28 pm)

Do a lot of MBE questions. I passed the NY UBE by reviewing the Barbri outlines (1 year old) and did a lot of Adaptibar MBE questions. If you practice enough of the MBE and understand how and what to apply, it will help on the MEE as well.

MBE, MBE, MBE.

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goorange888 (Feb 8, 2017 - 9:36 am)

In the same situation. Did even worse than you on the Barbri midterm, and have been putting in about the same amount of hours as you have since Christmas Eve. Not sure how to approach the last 10 days or so before the exam. Not feeling too confident.

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orange9 (Feb 8, 2017 - 10:03 am)

Do every possible MBE question possible. Also, don't let the barbri midterm get you down. The test they give is definitely harder than the real test.

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beat123 (Feb 8, 2017 - 12:09 pm)

Review your incorrect and correct answers. Is there a pattern? Is there certain areas of law you don't know well? Right now, you should focus on weaknesses and set some time to review your strong areas so you don't forget them.

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dingbat (Feb 8, 2017 - 12:55 pm)

make sure you also put time into essays.

For the past few years, the mantra has been MBE uber alles, that if you do well enough on the multiple choice, it'll carry your essays. And for those same past few years the trend has been higher MBE scores and lower pass rates. Yes, it's easier to BS your way through the essays, and it's easier to be mediocre on the essays, but the MBE alone can't carry you. Unless you're consistently scoring 160+, there's a good chance you'll still need half-decent essays.

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barelylegal (Feb 8, 2017 - 8:00 pm)

I got a 100 on the midterm and 157 (scaled) on the actual Bar. What I recall about BarBri is that their sample MBE question prompts are really long compared to the actual Bar exam.

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newyork8675 (Feb 8, 2017 - 9:01 pm)

Would you say the more difficult Barbri questions actually made the actual MBE questions "easier" in the end? I recently bought the Emmanuel's book which has a lot of the real MBE questions, and I have thought about drilling both the Barbri and Emmanuel's sets.

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barelylegal (Feb 8, 2017 - 10:04 pm)

Yes, I would. I got through the both MBE sections with plenty of time to spare.

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