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So what happened to Hastings?

Back in the early nineties, they used to be a consistent top jonthomas01/25/17
I have by no means studied the Diaspora of the Hastings hall unlearnedhand01/26/17
Hastings has always been a respected school here in SF. I do guyingorillasuit01/26/17
it's the Fordham of California. Well-respected, but third dingbat01/27/17
Hastings is the third-ranking school in its region. The most passportfan301/26/17
I think it is important to note that McGeorge dominates seve cargo01/26/17
Oh, is that right? guyingorillasuit01/27/17
I have also heard a lot about McGeorge dominating that regio hankstamper01/27/17
Heh. "McGeorge" and "dominates" are two words that go toget shuiz01/27/17
Problem with Hastings 1. Better Schools in the Area (Berk irishlaw01/27/17
jonthomas (Jan 25, 2017 - 5:05 am)

Back in the early nineties, they used to be a consistent top-20 ranked school ( http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=213 ). Now, they are barely a top-50 on a good year. The thread on Dean Wu got me interested. Thoughts?

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unlearnedhand (Jan 26, 2017 - 10:24 pm)

I have by no means studied the Diaspora of the Hastings hallowed halls.

But something tells me that they leaned too hard left and that is when the rankings began to fall.

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guyingorillasuit (Jan 26, 2017 - 11:09 pm)

Hastings has always been a respected school here in SF. I don't know what people think of it outside of the Bay Area.

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dingbat (Jan 27, 2017 - 8:42 am)

it's the Fordham of California.

Well-respected, but third in its market. It does a fine job at education, but is always in the shadows of its better siblings. Should not be compared to the garbage that is the other regional law schools

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passportfan3 (Jan 26, 2017 - 11:18 pm)

Hastings is the third-ranking school in its region. The most desirable applicants are creamed off by Stanford and Berkeley.

Worse, the distance in prestige between #2 Berkeley and #3 Hastings is so vast that people with decent LSATs who are rejected by Berkeley have several non-Hastings options.

They can attend a higher-ranked school elsewhere in California (e.g., UCLA).

Or they can attend a much lower-ranked school in SF and receive some scholarship money (USF, Golden Gate).

Or attend a lower-ranked school near their home (e.g., McGeorge, Univ. of San Diego).

A few years back, there were a lot of articles about the decline of the mid-market. People either wanted to buy an expensive or high-quality product or a cheap and generic product -- but middle-of-the-road brands like Sheraton were unpopular.

That's Hastings.

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cargo (Jan 26, 2017 - 11:25 pm)

I think it is important to note that McGeorge dominates several of the small counties up by Sac. In the Sacramento county area, McGeorge is held in high esteem. I've met several McGeorge grads working in the Bay Area and have found them to be good litigators.

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guyingorillasuit (Jan 27, 2017 - 1:02 am)

Oh, is that right?

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hankstamper (Jan 27, 2017 - 1:36 am)

I have also heard a lot about McGeorge dominating that region.

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shuiz (Jan 27, 2017 - 1:54 am)

Heh. "McGeorge" and "dominates" are two words that go together like "peanut butter" and "chocolate" here on JDU.

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irishlaw (Jan 27, 2017 - 12:01 am)

Problem with Hastings

1. Better Schools in the Area (Berkeley, Stanford)
2. Better Schools in CA (UCLA and USC)
3. Cost of living in San Francisco
4. UC Davis is equal to Hastings and in a lower cost of living area
5. Schools like McGeorge and San Diego have less competition for local jubs
6. The clutter of trash schools that hand out scholorships like candy.


SF job market is trash, at least in biglaw terms. SF is almost 100% litigation with extremely small classes, even native SF firms only take max 10 summers. Silicon Valley also suffers from small class sizes. Berkeley has trouble getting all their kids big law, Harvard and Yale kids still want SF also.

This is why I took money from ND over UCLA and USC.

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