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Thinking of Reapplying to Firm that Blew Me Off About Two Years Ago

I applied to work at a firm about two years ago and one of t schopenhauerx9901/04/17
Never hurts to apply, worst result is that they say no again tdkerabatsos01/04/17
I made some revisions and included some of my professional a schopenhauerx9901/04/17
I don't think it hurts to reapply. He probably doesn't even truffautfan01/04/17
There is zero harm in applying again. The absolute worst ca pauperesq01/04/17
They probably want you to bring business to the firm. T patenttrollnj01/04/17
The guy I knew had been out of school for a couple of years schopenhauerx9901/04/17
I resubmitted my application to the hr manager. schopenhauerx9901/05/17
Doesn't hurt to apply again. After two years they might not prestiiigiousone01/05/17
They didn't want you. Bottom line. Why not use that as motiv mtobeinf01/05/17
For me, since I mostly do insurance defense, firms that have prestiiigiousone01/06/17
Did insurance defense as well. Never worked for me either lo mtobeinf01/06/17
I landed my current gig after reapplying for the second time jd4hire01/09/17
I'm focused now on networking, alumni events, CLE, etc. any prestiiigiousone01/09/17
Why would you want to work for someone you think is a liar? thedarkscrivener01/09/17
I'm thinking of applying again to a firm, where the office m schopenhauerx9902/02/17
If you submit your resume to the hiring partner and somehow thedarkscrivener02/02/17
It is odd the firm has been looking to fill this position fo schopenhauerx9902/02/17
Just do it. Screw the world homie. triplesix02/02/17
Go for it. Worst that could happen is that they tell you "No isthisit02/03/17
schopenhauerx99 (Jan 4, 2017 - 9:33 am)

I applied to work at a firm about two years ago and one of the owners told me they didn't hire candidates with the same experience as mine. I found this to be bs because I knew one of the successful applicants and he had almost no experience in that area of law. I'm thinking of applying again for an open position. Thoughts?

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tdkerabatsos (Jan 4, 2017 - 9:44 am)

Never hurts to apply, worst result is that they say no again.

Is your resume now a better fit for that firm than it was 2 years ago?

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schopenhauerx99 (Jan 4, 2017 - 10:29 am)

I made some revisions and included some of my professional activities since the last time I applied, but I'm worried the co owner I dealt with is going to remember me.

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truffautfan (Jan 4, 2017 - 2:25 pm)

I don't think it hurts to reapply. He probably doesn't even remember the conversation.

But I've discovered there is a lot of randomness in terms of who law firms hire and who they don't.

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pauperesq (Jan 4, 2017 - 10:36 am)

There is zero harm in applying again. The absolute worst case scenario is they say no again.

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patenttrollnj (Jan 4, 2017 - 10:42 am)

They probably want you to bring business to the firm.

The fact that you refer to an "owner" (rather than a "partner") suggests to me that it's a small/mid-sized firm of no more than 50 attorneys. These firms hire directly out of law school, or they want you to have a portable book of business to bring to them.

Thus, if you've already been working in the area of law and you do not have business to bring them, they may view you as a bad investment. Remember, law firms (especially those that deal with insurance carriers) only pretend to care about quality.

Good luck!

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schopenhauerx99 (Jan 4, 2017 - 11:06 am)

The guy I knew had been out of school for a couple of years and I worked with him at firm. He went to a satellite office across the state. That's how I knew the owner was fos

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schopenhauerx99 (Jan 5, 2017 - 1:09 pm)

I resubmitted my application to the hr manager.

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prestiiigiousone (Jan 5, 2017 - 6:29 pm)

Doesn't hurt to apply again. After two years they might not even remember you.

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mtobeinf (Jan 5, 2017 - 6:52 pm)

They didn't want you. Bottom line. Why not use that as motivation to join a rival firm and get to kick their ass a couple times a year or depending on the size of the town far more often. Have a chip on your shoulder. Use it to motivate. You're better than that. Respect your talent. They didnt see it then shame on them. They'll sure be seeing it when your opposing counsel. Just my two cents.

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prestiiigiousone (Jan 6, 2017 - 3:00 pm)

For me, since I mostly do insurance defense, firms that have "rejected" me are mostly firms that do the same thing and we're on the same side of a lot of issues.

But in my experience, once interviewed and not hired, I can send my resume again and I never get a call (until maybe a couple years have passed). It's like if they didn't hire you once they won't consider you for anything.

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mtobeinf (Jan 6, 2017 - 3:08 pm)

Did insurance defense as well. Never worked for me either lol.

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jd4hire (Jan 9, 2017 - 9:56 am)

I landed my current gig after reapplying for the second time. The first time I sent in substantially the same resume and got no response. After sending in the first resume, I switched from outside counsel ID gig to field legal for large carrier and was hating life. When I saw a job post about a year and two months after my first application, I was desperate and figured I had nothing to lose. Only thing I did different was reach out to an associate where I currently work. We both went to an extremely small liberal arts school in Indiana (I'm now located in New England). He agreed to meet with me over lunch and just discuss the firm from his perspective. He was explicit in noting that he had no role in the hiring process. At the end of the lunch, I suppose he liked me as he offered to submit my materials to the hiring partner on my behalf. A few days later, I had my first interview. Weeks later, my second. Then a lunch with some attorneys and then an offer. Not sure if the associate handing in my materials was what made the difference, but I'm glad it all worked out as it did, as I'm very happy at my current firm.

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prestiiigiousone (Jan 9, 2017 - 2:19 pm)

I'm focused now on networking, alumni events, CLE, etc. any instance to meet people at different firms in my field. I thought it would be a lot easier to move up in the ID realm after a few years experience but so far that hasn't been the case. Lots of interviews, no offers. You really have to have an "in", as you did.

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thedarkscrivener (Jan 9, 2017 - 12:26 pm)

Why would you want to work for someone you think is a liar?

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schopenhauerx99 (Feb 2, 2017 - 9:01 am)

I'm thinking of applying again to a firm, where the office manager was incredibly rude and told me to quit applying, but I'm questioning whether she ever submitted my application to the hiring attorneys and just doesn't like me. Should I try to email ti directly to the hiring partner?

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thedarkscrivener (Feb 2, 2017 - 9:42 am)

If you submit your resume to the hiring partner and somehow you are hired, the office manager will make your life a living hell for going around her.

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schopenhauerx99 (Feb 2, 2017 - 10:05 am)

It is odd the firm has been looking to fill this position for quite a while. I would think I'd have nothing to lose if the office manager wasn't so hostile.

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triplesix (Feb 2, 2017 - 10:14 am)

Just do it. Screw the world homie.

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isthisit (Feb 3, 2017 - 11:40 am)

Go for it. Worst that could happen is that they tell you "No" again.

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